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Topic: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

This hogwash Meltdown/Spectre brought to thought that can exist and vulnerability  scale. That if vulnerability, which will be found out: 1. It is not eliminated by patches (type in the processor). 2. It is possible to cause or through JS or even without the active actions of a victim - TCP-package sending. 3. All main processors are subject. 4. With the computer of a victim you can do that want. Whether it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind?

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? I suggest to consider at the same time asteroid falling to the Earth, eruption of the Jelloustonsky supervolcano and the zombie-apocalypse far not to walk.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Lazytech, you wrote: whether S>> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? L> I suggest to consider at the same time asteroid falling to the Earth, eruption of the Jelloustonsky supervolcano and the zombie-apocalypse far not to walk. It is all already 100 times considered. And here anybody could not foresee an IT apocalypse - all the same people trust in reliability of computers.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And here anybody could not foresee an IT apocalypse - all the same people trust in reliability of computers. That is how it could not? Mr. the Robot - Wikipedia P.S. Not absolutely on a subject: Frederik Brown.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> This hogwash Meltdown/Spectre brought to thought that can exist and vulnerability  scale. S> that if vulnerability, which will be found out: S> 1. It is not eliminated by patches (type in the processor). S> 2. It is possible to cause or through JS or even without the active actions of a victim - TCP-package sending. S> 3. All main processors are subject. S> 4. With the computer of a victim you can do that want. Somewhere, yes . Most simple - to filter such TCP-packages. Whether S> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? The considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And here anybody could not foresee an IT apocalypse - all the same people trust in reliability of computers. Yes there is no apocalypse, in Russia simply too long New Year's days off, it is boring to people, here and start to invent any horror stories. Small vulnerability which on what does not influence. Here published vulnerability, all about it became known. Was specific with your computers or with computers of your acquaintances something happens? Here when the Russian hackers set the cipherer in all Ukrainian state institutions and there there was a collapse, here it, probably, it was unpleasant. But any  here it was not required, simply to bribe the employee from local IT firm and all.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? There are also good news: if all computers of the world at once turn to a pumpkin, Russia will disconnect nobody from SWIFTa. Well i.e., for us it is good news, to someone bad

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Lazytech, you wrote: S> And here anybody could not foresee an IT apocalypse - all the same people trust in reliability of computers. L> that is how it could not? Mr. the Robot - Wikipedia + "the World on the Earth". The ideal weapon - , self-multiplied and destroying processors. + I remember who, but a plot - invented a bacterium corroding bottle plastic, for recycling. And it  also started to corrode other types of plastics, including electrical insulation and was multiplied geometrically.  - and the majority of electroinstruments in the world fused.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> 1. It is not eliminated by patches (type in the processor). I will dare to remind that  on "Pentium I" itself  and other vendors, made so, in the modern processors kind three quarters of logic of operation  program (microcode). That is normal it (microcode patches) does not become, does not mean that it not probably basically (and such cases already were).

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote:> 4. With the computer of a victim you can do that want. It is all a hogwash - the majority does not concern. And here if at the majority as a result of patches productivity of time in three gives, here it will be a fuck-up.

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Irrespectively lifted questions... And remember, how somebody , at one time declared that found a hole in   and is fast about it tells? But and did not tell.

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F> + I remember who, but a plot - invented a bacterium corroding bottle plastic, for recycling. And it  also started to corrode other types of plastics, including electrical insulation and was multiplied geometrically.  - and the majority of electroinstruments in the world fused. And so what for it is created...

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> irrespectively lifted questions... And remember, how somebody , at one time declared that found a hole in   and is fast about it tells? But and did not tell. Outstripped. Well there like ended with nothing. Or silence bought.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> irrespectively lifted questions... And remember, how somebody , at one time declared that found a hole in   and is fast about it tells? But and did not tell. Because at it the parachute oddly was not developed...:-O

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

O>> irrespectively lifted questions... And remember, how somebody , at one time declared that found a hole in   and is fast about it tells? But and did not tell. L> because at it the parachute oddly was not developed...:-O It was much earlier. Though as the nobility, as the nobility.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

vsb> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss. And suddenly in bank suddenly it appears it is written down, what they  banking operations on many money, and to them send collectors?

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> irrespectively lifted questions... And remember, how somebody , at one time declared that found a hole in   and is fast about it tells? But and did not tell. Think Intel to it  spoiled?

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss. Use . To get wages without the computer/cash dispense you can not any more. The interbank remittance without the computer any more does not transit.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, loginx, you wrote: L> because at it the parachute oddly was not developed...:-O Though would esteem at first that actually happens.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: https://youtu.be/ekBV2AdUc5g And here : time those for whom it is necessary, knew about  vulnerability? After all on a surface...

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> And here : time those for whom it is necessary, knew about  vulnerability? After all on a surface... Interesting another - about what they still know and do not speak?

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, fmiracle, you wrote: F> + I remember who, but a plot - invented a bacterium corroding bottle plastic, for recycling. And it  also started to corrode other types of plastics, including electrical insulation and was multiplied geometrically.  - and the majority of electroinstruments in the world fused. Instruments it is not terrible, there the horror was in  a collapse as all cables decayed.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: the Situation quickly affected actions of the companies which are affected by the given problem. In particular, Intel actions went down in price approximately on 6 %, truth, after grew on 2 %. Actions AMD, on the contrary, grew in the price at once on 10 %. Besides, approximately on 6 % Nvidia actions grew, and it is the indirect competitor of Intel in the market of data processing centers so there is nothing strange in growth of actions.

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Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> the Situation quickly affected actions of the companies which are affected by the given problem. Markets are driven by greed and fear. Doh!... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>