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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> the Question was - that you wrote? A kindergarten, really.

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Hello, Ikemefula, you wrote: I> And the most important thing - tests work only when operation began with requirements. Quality is a level of correspondence to requirements. I> there are no requirements - there is no sense to speak about quality because any shit approaches. . The Most important thing - in case of the HARDWARE tests worked as it is necessary. That was required their wild  to cover the code which does nothing, directly specifies that with the code something not so. The correct code is tested easily and conveniently.

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Hello, itslave, you wrote: I> the Kindergarten, really. You really think, what without writing independently difficult program any in the slightest degree, can be called as the programmer generally?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> You really think, what without writing independently difficult program any in the slightest degree, can be called as the programmer generally? Sound criterion And that is rocket science which fruits the ten people uses at most, and there is not so a complex code which millions use. Both those and others, in my opinion, good programmers. Only one are stronger in the physicist \mathematician, and others in marketing.

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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> You really think, what without writing independently difficult program any in the slightest degree, can be called as the programmer generally? Well I am assured of the first that ' Hello world ' wrote all. Falls under criterion "in the slightest degree the difficult program", only many do not consider it as the fact deserving a mention. I as am assured of the second that a little difficult projects become collectives and to select the personal contribution...  it is possible, but  the project context demands deep immersing. For example here on my extreme project, on one hundred , I earned additionally the draughtsman of small squares and . What my contribution to this project - some tens pictures?

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> And that is rocket science which fruits the ten people uses at most, and there is not so a complex code which millions use. Both those and others, in my opinion, good programmers. S> only one are stronger in the physicist \mathematician, and others in marketing. As you sounded - good experts in marketing, instead of programmers.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, itslave, you wrote: I> Well I am assured of the first that ' Hello world ' wrote all. Falls under criterion "in the slightest degree the difficult program" I>, only many do not consider it as the fact deserving a mention. I as am assured of the second that a little difficult projects become collectives And for some reason it seems to me that between hello world and the monster of type  there are many intermediate stages.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> As you sounded - good experts in marketing, instead of programmers. The criterion will be? Personally it seems to me that it abruptly when millions people use your code, let to even not super-puper difficult. I.e. something from itself enclosed, let and not the most difficult. And for me it too the good programmer. I can offer for a criterion seed such concept as favor to a society. For this purpose not mandatory to be engaged .

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> the Criterion will be? Complexity of the solved task. S> personally it seems to me that it abruptly when millions people use your code, let to even not super-puper difficult. Abruptly, but it is marketing, instead of programming. S> I can offer for a criterion seed such concept as favor to a society. At once "Serial programmer John" is recalled.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> Complexity of the solved task. Generally speaking, it is difficult enough to solve \automate a problem at once for one million people. Here it is necessary to possess uncommon knowledge and understanding at once in several areas, including in programming. Otherwise the decision does not fly up. And it too is difficult. CM> abruptly, but it is marketing, instead of programming. Both that and another.

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Generally speaking, it is difficult enough to solve \automate a problem at once for one million people. Here it is necessary to possess uncommon knowledge and understanding at once in several areas, including in programming. Otherwise the decision does not fly up. It is difficult to untwist, as process is illogical and strongly depends on randomness. To develop - is much easier.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CoderMonkey, you wrote: CM> it is difficult to untwist, as process is illogical and strongly depends on randomness. To develop - is much easier. To develop, that it was scaled for millions users simply? Angry birds too it is not easy to make, if that.