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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Well you in the Chechen Republic killed the? Or there inhabitants of other state were? Civil war . Name as you want. This page in the history of the Russian Federation shameful to be proud there is nothing. Unless that there directed the relative order and more wars are not present.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: N>> Well Syria as though too is recognized, but to whom what business? S> and what with Syria happens?  like did not get to As did not get to, if it not only that Americans and Turks so still Americans decided to divide it into parts really occupy? Consider that there is no the former Syria, now there there will be 2-3 new countries of the smaller size. S>>> generally any country is not necessary by such criterion. All countries exist artificially, the reasons for sharing on boundaries and customs are not present any. S> the USSR on an example. Also what? All that was in the past for the future has no value. Has. Motives and the base. Why Ukraine is functional is incapable to work though somehow on favor of the population? Created it not for this purpose and not as all remaining countries. S> can you also Germany want to punish for a criminal conduct in 2 world war? And about which you tell events - were even earlier, about them to already any storage does not remain. , it does not prevent to smooth out at some instant a mold arrived with the West. S>>> all is constructed on lie that we than that especial. And Russia not an exception. N>> Russia - the conventional great state. And recognized not any official because to it so was impatient, and generally a society. S> Ukraine - too conventional great (in 5 times more Switzerland on the population) the state Greatness is defined by the sovereignty, and Ukraine was never sovereign and never will be. It is not enough great countries, they sit in UNSF. S> including Putin and Russia it recognize. Your judgement is marginal, as the plane earth. Anybody in  does not perceive you. Now recognize, tomorrow cease. The great countries do not depend on a recognition, at them it as  for dogs. And Ukraine entirely depends on other countries - refuses the USA for a month a recognition of Ukraine and there is no it instantly. N>> thus the USSR was besides generated and. In real struggle. For new, against the old. He tried to grow and become more, but here there is no same clinically stupid picture, as at , about that Ukraine as the continuous essence  has history ancient 25/100 of years. S> well and where now yours the USSR? . In you it is saved still. S> how many own citizens subjected to repression the USSR, hunger ? . Ten millions. With hunger of the USSR exhausted nobody, and subjected to repression ten will not be typed. S> here and Ukraine now does the same - destroys all not consent. Here to you and struggle. It is struggle internal, and stupid because those who now destroys - then will destroy too. As it was already repeatedly in the same territory. It also does it  by the country as I and told - there are no people. Can be by the durable genocide it and create through a floor of hundred years, but most likely it do not allow to make.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the President ran away itself, he should not run. Already hundred times explained to you that there is no such concept as "the president himself ran away", under your constitution, but you though about a wall peas. Well and the sense to communicate with you?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> However here in large quantities all became deserters and traitors that shows the true essence of the person. No, it simply well characterizes the state to which swore. And ?  all the same, only the room question spoiled them a little

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: S>> Then forced . P> it strongly reduces value and a role of this action. Here you see. It strongly reduces a role of the second

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Hello, alsemm, you wrote: S>> Well you in the Chechen Republic killed the? Or there inhabitants of other state were? Civil war . A> Name as you want. This page in the history of the Russian Federation shameful to be proud there is nothing. Unless that there directed the relative order and more wars are not present. Well here and Ukraine will have a shameful page the Difference?

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: S>> And what with Syria happens?  like did not get to N> As did not get to, if it not only that Americans and Turks so still Americans decided to divide it into parts really occupy? Consider that there is no the former Syria, now there there will be 2-3 new countries of the smaller size. Currency one? S>> the USSR on an example. Also what? All that was in the past for the future has no value. N> has. Motives and the base. Why Ukraine is functional is incapable to work though somehow on favor of the population? Created it not for this purpose and not as all remaining countries. It to the past of the relation has no. The economy, ideology is not important. You spoke that in Russia there is no ideology and anything. With .. Ideologies of the USSR the modern Russia is the country of traitors. S>> Ukraine - too conventional great (in 5 times more Switzerland on the population) state N> Greatness is defined by the sovereignty, and Ukraine was never sovereign and never will be. It is not enough great countries, they sit in UNSF. About what sovereignty of Rossi there can be a speech if children of your higher ranks do not connect to it the future? S>> including Putin and Russia it recognize. Your judgement is marginal, as the plane earth. Anybody in  does not perceive you. N> now recognize, tomorrow cease. The great countries do not depend on a recognition, at them it as  for dogs. N> and Ukraine entirely depends on other countries - refuses the USA for a month a recognition of Ukraine and there is no it instantly. Goodness knows that tomorrow will be... Today Russia great and is shattered tomorrow into parts... Remember the USSR? The USSR was great? Well and where now this greatness? S>> well and where now yours the USSR? . N> In you it is saved still. Ukraine is not the receiver of the USSR - only Russia. With .. Legislations of the USSR are you. And it is possible to stir everything, that is important only that is written down on an official paper, written down in the history. S>> how many own citizens subjected to repression the USSR, hunger ? . Ten millions. N> with hunger of the USSR exhausted nobody, and subjected to repression ten will not be typed. Starved, read Russian Wiki. Not Ukrainian, there a policy, read Russian, there it is more exact. S>> here and Ukraine now does the same - destroys all not consent. Here to you and struggle. N> it is struggle internal, and stupid because those who now destroys - then will destroy too. As it was already repeatedly in the same territory. So. And in the USSR there was the same N> It and does it  by the country as I and told - there are no people. Can be by the durable genocide it and create through a floor of hundred years, but most likely it do not allow to make. Well, create by a genocide. As well as any other country. All countries formed on sufferings and blood, for same they and are necessary. The tool in hands of the Lucifer - misters of your god with horns and hoofs. Only faster than in 50 years.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S>>> Well you in the Chechen Republic killed the? Or there inhabitants of other state were? Civil war . A>> Name as you want. This page in the history of the Russian Federation shameful to be proud there is nothing. Unless that there directed the relative order and more wars are not present. S> Well here and Ukraine will have a shameful page the Difference? The special difference is not present. Ukraine in an ass, as well as the Russian Federation then

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S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. S> here such facts show where real values and where production, theatrical. Such  or the collapse of wave function happens not often but when happens - that unambiguously  human nature. And you accepted the oath? If yes, what country?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S>>> Well and where now yours the USSR? . N>> In you it is saved still. S> Ukraine is not the receiver of the USSR - only Russia. With .. Legislations of the USSR are you. And it is possible to stir everything, that is important only that is written down on an official paper, written down in the history. Ukraine is not the receiver of the USSR. Ukraine is "the scoop" receiver in heads.

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Hello, _AND, you wrote: _AN> And you accepted the oath? If yes, what country? Whether there is no, of course, I that the madman that?

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Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> Ukraine is not the receiver of the USSR. Ukraine is "the scoop" receiver in heads. Upon Russia is the receiver of the USSR both on a paper and in heads ( in the Pyramidal tower in the Kremlin you wash till now a bottom).

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: M>> Ukraine is not the receiver of the USSR. Ukraine is "the scoop" receiver in heads. S> upon Russia is the receiver of the USSR both on a paper and in heads ( in the Pyramidal tower in the Kremlin you wash till now a bottom). It is possible to think that if to contract some monuments to Lenin the scoop from a head magically disappears

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_AN>> And you accepted the oath? If yes, what country? Whether S> there is no, of course, I that the madman that? . At you unless not mandatory conscription always was? Or you mowed \invalid?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> However here in large quantities all became deserters and traitors that shows the true essence of the person. Unless in large quantities did not execute command orders, ran up changed clothes in civil clothes? Or in a captivity surrendered? So like as in a captivity anybody also did not take Like as there were military men left to serve in  army, them can undoubtedly consider broken the Ukrainian oath, from the moral point of view this variant strongly depends on initial belief.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> There is no, of course, I that the madman that? You want to lead voting about it? That public opinion to learn?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> There is no, of course, I that the madman that? Here while citizens of the country will be so concerns the oath, military men of this country will break the oath.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: _AN>> And you accepted the oath? If yes, what country? Whether S> there is no, of course, I that the madman that? And military men that, madwomen to observe the oath? Too to me, little fools found

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Text of the Military oath is stated by the Decision of the Supreme Rada of Ukraine on December, 6th, 1991: That to fidelity to the people - so on the people like anybody during these events did not encroach, shot nobody, in a concentration camp did not exhaust and generally, as far as I know, any inconveniences did not deliver. That to fidelity to the state - it withdrew from a problem, leaving military men in private with a situation. Here they also arrived moderately the .

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Formalities not only for court. About the USSR to remind? Remind, only to itself because even earlier military men in the USSR accepted the oath

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Well here and Ukraine will have a shameful page the Difference? Big. Russia does not justify itself that all have shameful pages.

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S> the Text of the Military oath is stated by the Decision of the Supreme Rada of Ukraine on December, 6th, 1991: S> S> I, (a surname, the name and a patronymic), enlist and solemnly I swear to the people of Ukraine always to be true and betrayed to it, honesty and fairly to fulfill a soldier's duty, orders of commanders, steadily to adhere to the Constitution and laws of Ukraine, to store the state and military secret. S> I swear to protect the Ukrainian state, unshakably to be on guard of its freedom and independence. S> I swear never to betray the people of Ukraine. [6] S> also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. S> here such facts show where real values and where production, theatrical. Such  or the collapse of wave function happens not often but when happens - that unambiguously  human nature. Oh, and Gorbach and Benja unless did not give any oath? Or even all suckers who have visited the Soviet army

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Text of the Military oath is stated by the Decision of the Supreme Rada of Ukraine on December, 6th, 1991: S> S> I, (a surname, the name and a patronymic), enlist and solemnly I swear to the people of Ukraine always to be true and betrayed to it, honesty and fairly to fulfill a soldier's duty, orders of commanders, steadily to adhere to the Constitution and laws of Ukraine, to store the state and military secret. S> I swear to protect the Ukrainian state, unshakably to be on guard of its freedom and independence. S> I swear never to betray the people of Ukraine. [6] S> also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. It is similar to requirements of the standard of any programming language - the behavior of correctly written program is in details described. And as incorrectly written program should behave is not told, the indefinite behavior is simply stated. And here, the text of the military oath, as well as laws, including the Constitution, do not provide cases of force capture of the power in the country. Therefore the estimation of acts of military men of Crimea is deprived any bases. They, at least, did not shoot on citizens of the country as it was done by the Ukrainian military men.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And who it decides to eat or not? Russia officially recognizes Ukraine. Putin recognizes. The United Nations recognize. S> or they tell lies and play the hypocrite? Besides Russia also in the judicial order established the revolution fact in Ukraine. The recognition, in itself, does not cancel a fact of crime. A situation same as with terrorists who demand the plane and the weapon, threatening  over hostages. And the satisfaction of requirements of terrorists at all does not cancel the fact of an act of terrorism. The United Nations also have no competence to forgive crimes. The United Nations it is simple group of the participants pursuing own interests. And, some of them are directly interested in illegal actions worldwide, and some already exist for a long time as hostages and are completely deprived own will.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the President ran away itself, he should not run. Remind, how it under the constitution on which you nod? Here it also is called,  to it. Even a post factum of the formal discharge was not. And for this reason the state came to an end. S> and you drove to the Chechen Republic to be at war, there unless not your people were? The Chechen Republic then had an independence generally. Simply a little it seemed to them.