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Hello, SaprXM, you wrote: SXM> oh, and and Benja unless did not give to Gorbach any oath? Gave. And Gunpowder gave. And my godfather, from Kostroma, served in one company with Tjagnibokom.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: _AN>> And you accepted the oath? If yes, what country? Whether S> there is no, of course, I that the madman that? Then, I apologize, for what , you, here, argue on that in what do not understand?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. During that moment there was no Ukraine. There was a capture of the power by impostors. While happens here such captures of the power, at the moment of country anarchy as that is not present. Laws do not operate. So was in 1917 when the Russian empire broke up. The tsar is not present, the uttermost brothel. So was in 1991 when the USSR broke up. The countries are not present, the full brothel. And so was in 2014. Too the country is not present, the full brothel. That after 2014 did not begin to rename the country into Bandit Ersky Republic of nothing changes. That country which now is in territory of the former Ukraine is absolutely other country, it absolutely other state. And during these moments when that state to which you , do not exist, there is a moral right to select on whose side to become. After 2014 year the oath needs to be accepted anew. On any. And to be to it true until again there will be no armed revolution. For example if Yanukovych returns, and if it replaces the power violently as dethroned it is again at military men there will be a choice. They swore roughly speaking to store  values and to destroy all Russian, and here to the power their enemy came and forces monuments of Bandere to bring down. If as a result Lvov is slivered and does not accept Yanukovych, and by results of a referendum adjoins Poland - to them generally no questions will exist. Roughly speaking, defended the belief, anything personal.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Davate on the TV set we will tell that the oath serious does not imply anything, phrase-mongering for people with feeble mentality is simple, perhaps somebody pecks and during any moment it  action. Can, about Father Frost you will uncover all eyes?

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S> S> the Constitution and laws of Ukraine S> I swear never to betray the people of Ukraine. [6] it is possible, by then they already got used to break the Constitution and laws of Ukraine almost every day. And that was wanted by the people of Ukraine - whence it the nobility? Perhaps, he dreamed to reunite with Russia.

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Hello, , you wrote: And where two, there and three norms. It is all was with the consent of the authorities, including the authorities of Russia legalized the new state.

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Hello, rg45, you wrote: R> It is similar to requirements of the standard of any programming language - the behavior of correctly written program is in details described. And as incorrectly written program should behave is not told, the indefinite behavior is simply stated. No, , a pity excuse. The oath just what to do in case of INCORRECT behavior of the program. When all is quiet - at you and the choice is not present. And here when it is necessary to whom to serve a choice - then the oath is important. Inhabitants of the USSR  from the peace consent of all sides - the state Ukrainian has been approved by the government of the Russian Federation and other countries. R> and here, the text of the military oath, as well as laws, including the Constitution, do not provide cases of force capture of the power in the country. Just it also provides, what for still it is necessary?  remained the same, there was no only a president. And here in Crimea made change to the native land.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Well you in the Chechen Republic killed the? Or there inhabitants of other state were? Civil war . How many trains inhabitants of Donbass or Crimea plundered? How many money stole on counterfeit ? How many "Budennovskov" captured?

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Hello, Artem Korneev, you wrote: AK> you descend in a military registration and enlistment office yes wander some months on a front line on Donbass. Then you  about deserters and deserters will though count for something. And that from  the soldier somehow ridiculously to hear reproaches of others in a lack of fighting valor. All the same it is necessary to distinguish forcedly called recruits whom nobody asked, whether they want to serve and the oath to accept and regular officers. To the first it is finite any claims where they sent the oath, and here to the second it is possible and to show. They voluntary knew where to work went, the salary, a period of service, pension raised and other  for it had. And that at them as in a joke about the fireman turned out: the muzhik the fireman got a job. In a month meets the friend, that asks as is worked. - you know, not bad. The salary decent, pay in time, a ration, regimentals... Besides, children good stole up, in drafts is played, in dominoes... But. ., as a fire so though leave!

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> I swear never to betray the people of Ukraine. [6] S> [/q] S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. They did not break the oath to the people. The oath was broken by what went to kill the people to Donetsk. You should distinguish the people from any chocolate magnates and the American puppets.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> 1. Even Russia (and all other countries) recognized the Kiev power as the official power of Ukraine. Russia recognized Ukraine as the country. It is necessary to communicate with terrorists somehow.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. And that they should do in conditions when * in the country unconstitutional revolution is made; * the power it is not known at whom; * these freaks are afraid to give orders; * against you there are children with which you recently together thumped vodka and considered itself and their part of one people; * the majority of the people are torn to Russia; * against you there are much better prepared and armed people?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Here such facts show where real values and where production, theatrical. Such  or the collapse of wave function happens not often but when happens - that unambiguously  human nature. The theatrical country => the theatrical oath. Ask a question why  have initially been completed from formal traitors - but already oaths of the USSR?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And who it decides to eat or not? Russia officially recognizes Ukraine. Putin recognizes. The United Nations recognize. Yes all  actually. S> or they tell lies and play the hypocrite? It is a policy.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Official power of Ukraine is in Kiev, and DNR/LNR are unrecognized republics. And: I Will remind. The referendum about independence of Donbass ( and ) has been led on May, 11th, 2014. Armies to Donbass have been entered in April. And in April there were first murders. I to you will not be tired to throw rollers from April and May 2014 of places where there was no also a foot of any Russian: 3/18/2014 (March) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QccpNVUYQdY 4/14/2014 (April) tanks in Dimitrove of Donetsk area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcmVT86YlU the Conflict to military men in Krasnoarmeysk, 4/14/2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC4y4UbmwEw S> 1. Even Russia (and all other countries) recognized the Kiev power as the official power of Ukraine. Russia recognized Ukraine as the country. Choices of Poroshenko took place 5/25/2014. That that Russia them recognized - the big error. But armies against the people have been thrown by Turchinovym much earlier. S> 2. Even Russia did not recognize DNR/LNR as the state and considers as their part of Donetsk and Lugansk area. Russia is engaged in geopolitical games. It is ready to promote reset of Donbass to composition of Ukraine under condition of its autonomism and absence of reprisals to not consent population. And as it you  never admit, also Donbass does not return to composition of Ukraine. At least before falling of this power. S> military men recited the oath to Ukraine and the power of Ukraine, Military men broke the oath when started to submit to those who made revolution. S> which operates on behalf of the people. On behalf of the people killed the people? Well, here we also helped these people. Excuse us that we help that part of the people which for us, instead of that that was on sale to Americans for credits. S> where the power of Ukraine in DNR/LNR or in Kiev? And where the power in Kiev? At you for a long time  an arbitrariness and violence. In other, in  too a lot of Ukrainian so and there were established 90. S> even Putin knows the Answer - in Kiev, certainly. In an ass, it. In the full and pitch ass.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Text of the Military oath is stated by the Decision of the Supreme Rada of Ukraine on December, 6th, 1991: S> S> I, (a surname, the name and a patronymic), enlist and solemnly I swear to the people of Ukraine always to be true and betrayed to it, honesty and fairly to fulfill a soldier's duty, orders of commanders, steadily to adhere to the Constitution and laws of Ukraine, to store the state and military secret. S> I swear to protect the Ukrainian state, unshakably to be on guard of its freedom and independence. S> I swear never to betray the people of Ukraine. [6] constitution of Ukraine on February, 22nd, 2014   Tourist's ranks - all remaining talks about laws, oaths and oaths have no more sense

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> It where the power ? There where illegally deprived of Yanukovych of powers S> the Power is conventional is not - Crimea and  see

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. Military men of Crimea somehow understood that there are no now people of Ukraine. And there are  true Ukrainians. And remaining. Which on . So their racers the actions released from the oath.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> According to Constitution  also is the higher authority. Sit down, 2 unique source of the power in Ukraine - the people and I SAY lies,  and  - the supreme bodies of legislative, executive and judicial branches of the power the president - the head of the state, does not concern one branch of the power

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And what with Syria happens?  like the Russian Federation did not get to with thanks

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Hello, rg45, you wrote: R>> It is similar to requirements of the standard of any programming language - the behavior of correctly written program is in details described. And as incorrectly written program should behave is not told, the indefinite behavior is simply stated. S> is not present, , a pity excuse. I do not see excuses, I see the full misunderstanding of its words by you. S> the oath just what to do in case of INCORRECT behavior of the program. No, the oath for a case of correct behavior (though I as well as Lev Tolstoi of sense in it do not see), including wars of the state with the exterior enemy - it is correct for the oath. A case of your former state existing to 2014. It just incorrect behavior.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Also what military men of Crimea made? They swore not to the people of Crimea to serve and not to a part of the people of Ukraine, and all people of Ukraine. And not constitutions of Crimea, and the constitution of Ukraine. And here njash-mjash the public prosecutor told that it was the armed anticonstitutional capture of the power in Kiev, therefore military men remained Constitutions, to the law and the people of Ukraine are true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-_pNiQHP0Q

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the President ran away itself, he should not run. The president cannot run away

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Is not present, , a pity excuse. S> the oath just what to do in case of INCORRECT behavior of the program. When all is quiet - at you and the choice is not present. And here when it is necessary to whom to serve a choice - then the oath is important. S> inhabitants of the USSR  from the peace consent of all sides - the state Ukrainian has been approved by the government of the Russian Federation and other countries. S> just it also provides, what for still it is necessary?  remained the same, there was no only a president. And here in Crimea made change to the native land. Again from you  delirium . I do not try to overpersuade at all.

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Hello,    ija - , you wrote: > I do not see excuses, I see the full misunderstanding of its words by you. It on an input has the reliable filter discarding everything that can break composure and clear residuals of that once was conscience.  is called.