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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote: a C> Since difference of a socialism from capitalism in three basic conditions: These are your personal representations about differences, an unknown and not clear origin. And yes, incomes of the investor -  a C> I Hope for you there will be no discovery what under the modern capitalism mass of workers already frequently co-owners? What in it erratic? Anything, but at what here a socialism?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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C> I Know that you not badly understand economy. Began with a joke, it is good. As a whole the bad program. I do not support. The problems constraining development of the country, are not considered, what tasks solve offered measures is not uncovered. Here you write: the Government to a great extent to carry out through system of electronic stock exchanges of Russia, only in national currency with a support on national independent ratings. What for? This measure should solve what task? We make a fresh start. All reserves to try to make inflation zero (less than 1 % a year) and to make crediting as much as possible accessible (no more than 4 % a year). What for reserves mean? / state employees? And what it is reserves in digits? And how they help to retain a rate of inflation around 1 %? While it is similar to mere words. Somebody Navalnyj suggests to solve all problems corruption destruction, somebody of Cornets - reduction of payments by the civil servant. As this reduction of payments is connected to inflation not uncovered. Here digits are necessary. Legislative restriction of the rate of crediting is very similar to populism. Though credits at us very expensive, but the economic justification why 4 % annual it is normal, with calculations here is necessary. About negotiations with oligarchs simply ridiculously. It is necessary to prove illegality of enrichment, besides, capital amnesty already was, so revising of this position strikes on trust of business to the state that entails a mass output of actives. Automation of state services and State Planning Committee creation sensible ideas, I support. Exchange reform not so is simple as it seems. Now the commodity-raw stock exchange is profanation. From it there is more than harm as it increases loading by business, and advantages from it any is not present. And yes,  does not fulfill the main function - it does not influence the prices (from a word "in any way"). Here now I described a problem how it to solve? Taxation reform - infernal . Taxes generally very difficult subject, I even would tell the most complicated. Any taxes to a family. Ascending scales and reporting simplification it is opposite concepts. More shortly, under taxes a total failure. Existing edition  works, and works on 4. I.e. it is possible to refine, but it is very careful, current legislation frames, without sharp movements. Pension reform - it is simple . Especially it: Pensions to calculate from state incomes, a pension fund of Russia to liquidate as superfluous. Local government reform is not uncovered from a word "absolutely". Reallocation of taxes it not reform. It is amusing that formation reform got to the other. And it by the way the major reform.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: Cs>> As soon as money leave the company in holding or child so leave manufacture and 20 % are paid. DO> That means money leave? How you represent it to yourselves? Remittances leave. The uncle the financier comes, takes money for a hand and withdraws. From transfer of 1 more % undertakes from a turn. Holdings are not favourable turn out. Each transfer in out of the organization for industrial needs needs acknowledgement of it. The state enterprises or even with the state involvement only through the exchange auctions can order something. Hardly it turns out that the order will be fulfilled by a daughter of holding. At all for state to work not through a stock exchange, it to cause suspicions. Criticize all concept, instead of a separate word.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> the Government to a great extent to carry out through system of electronic stock exchanges of Russia, only in national currency with a support on national independent ratings. DO> what for? This measure should solve what task? System of stock exchanges this heart of economy which overtakes money and the goods (fair in olden time). The  the volume concerning all volume is transferred by stock exchanges the better (the big fair). Better that that: 1. A bolshy choice of the goods and services in one place for all. 2. All companies of the country are presented almost. 3. The history of the auctions and performance of orders is conducted. 4. To find both the seller, and the buyer easier. 5. Above a competition of vendors. All it led at all times to development! Therefore it is impossible to admit that also the state orders went not through a stock exchange. That Mahlo that it strongly reduces expenditure so it also develops economy. Ratings only independent, are necessary easier to be guided and select the state suppliers. In somebody the state, we will not name it, reached idiotic practice that the smaller price ALWAYS wins! The smaller price at whom? Who is in a distress or who wants to throw! Ingenious suppliers! DO> all reserves to try to make inflation zero (less than 1 % a year) and to make crediting as much as possible accessible (no more than 4 % a year). DO> That for reserves mean? Stored reserves. DO> / state employees? No. There only . Much, for example to teachers and doctors, salaries grow. DO> and how they help to retain a rate of inflation around 1 %? Help. The main thing to superimpose gamble possibility at a currency stock exchange. Nearby the zero rate of refinancing. A frost of growth of rates. Support by crediting reserves. DO> while it is similar to mere words. Somebody Navalnyj suggests to solve all problems corruption destruction, somebody of Cornets - reduction of payments by the civil servant. As this reduction of payments is connected to inflation not uncovered. Here digits are necessary. I explained what to count difficult. But it is possible. Time Is necessary and it is not necessary to be engaged in it for nothing. DO> Legislative restriction of the rate of crediting is very similar to populism. Though credits at us very expensive, but the economic justification why 4 % annual it is normal, with calculations here is necessary. At zero inflation and 4 % it is a lot of. World practice of 2-3 %! DO> About negotiations with oligarchs simply ridiculously. It is necessary to prove illegality of enrichment, besides, capital amnesty already was, so revising of this position strikes on trust of business to the state that entails a mass output of actives. Your sentence not to receive defeat of economy because of an output of actives abroad? DO> automation of state services and State Planning Committee creation sensible ideas, I support. Well here though in what that. DO> Exchange reform not so is simple as it seems. Now the commodity-raw stock exchange is profanation. From it there is more than harm as it increases loading by business, and advantages from it any is not present. And yes,  does not fulfill the main function - it does not influence the prices (from a word "in any way"). DO> Here now I described a problem how it to solve? To remove profanation. To rediscover a platform on control of experts. To take the Canadian experience of electronic stock exchanges. It is assured our programmers make not worse. DO> taxation reform - infernal . Taxes generally very difficult subject, I even would tell the most complicated. Any taxes to a family. Ascending scales and reporting simplification it is opposite concepts. More shortly, under taxes a total failure. Taxation reform this connection of the American experience under the tax to the big inheritance (for reduction income) and French under the tax to a family. Both are successfully applied and yielded the positive results. And an offered uniform campaign even more all is thought over. So I ask re-read. DO> pension reform - it is simple . Especially it: DO> Pensions to calculate from state incomes, a pension fund of Russia to liquidate as superfluous. Well explain what for it the pension fund, if all means the state and so in investment funds holds is necessary? DO> local government reform is not uncovered from a word "absolutely". Reallocation of taxes it not reform. It is amusing that formation reform got to the other. And it by the way the major reform. It agree. Though, which that I wrote in effective economy.

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote: a C> 1. A bolshy choice of the goods and services in one place for all. A C> 2. All companies of the country are presented almost. The majority of the goods of a category And here: https://tiu.ru/search?search_term=%D0%B … y=12180101

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote: a C> You (qwertyuiop) stated the remark under article effective economy (+ continuation) about that what well to present specific reforms for Russia. I do not remember that I read this article or something similar. The C> Tried only the very first. Wrote reversal to Pavel Grudininu. In details to count it did not turn out, but digits in a sentence are made not up. We begin that Grudinin your reversal at all does not see. And if sees, does not read more than two lines. And if reads, all the same will not do anything. To me, for example, it became boring right after words "All reserves to try to make inflation zero". Because she badly obeys governors. You in vain think that the president or the chairman of the Central Bank have any pen, rotating which they control inflation. She lives and besides their will if for example people for any reason took out money from grists and decided something to buy on them there will be an inflation. Or on the contrary, if the president decides to produce all on 10 , but the situation in the country will be unpredictable this money for rainy day therefore no inflation will exist want to put by the majority. Secondly, words "all reserves" assume that you imply a dollar exchange rate inflation. Because only it can be regulated reserves. But dollar growth is not inflation about what I many times wrote. Also sentences about restriction of salaries of employees are naive. As well as a sentence to forbid the expensive crediting - if you do not want it to take - do not take, and if someone takes such credit, it means to it is necessary also cheaper to it do not give. When reached automation of public services, wanted to stop reading, but here on eyes the paragraph "State Planning Committee Creation got..." Also it became clear that it is the next communistic nonsense. Road, the normal stablly developing economy can be only private. And the only thing that should do the government is to be interested at capitalists that hinders them to develop. Generally, it would be desirable to tell that you in vain rest any hopes of Grudinina. If it select (that hardly) anything to change it in essence does not begin. The only thing that it is possible to expect is a revival of political life, appearance of new politicians, open discussions about ways of development of Russia. And then to following choices there can be the candidates, capable to remove Russia from an oil needle and to direct to the necessary channel. A C> I Know that you not badly understand economy. You flatter me. My knowledge of economy is very surface and based only on popular books. And if they appeared "above an average" it is a problem of those averages. A C> I Ask to criticize, but also to offer too. When you write any sentences, it is necessary to begin with presentation of problems which, in your judgement, face the country and their reasons generated. Then to state the measures, which these problems can correct. You enumerate certain measures (restriction of the salary of state officials) which should any solve our problems suddenly inexplicably. And relationships of cause and effect?

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Hello, Denwer, you wrote: D> Thanks,  the Expert in economy thinks that money between banks transports by trucks And between the countries the whole compositions ply. If you do not understand something, it is better not to show it publicly, and to try to understand and understand. As to transportation of money yes, there are such people - collectors. They transport money not only from shops in banks, but also between banks. And between the countries too it is necessary to transport them, and differently as your way you in a grist had dollars? Or you think, what in Saratov the branch of FRS-OVSKY printing house works? Or can them transfer on the Internet? When Putin connected Crimea, there too it was necessary to deliver money, somewhere in  about it even wrote. If this subject is interesting to you, can esteem, on this subject even detectives removed, as somewhere in mountains the plane transmiting money fell. Though yes only that part of money which forms a disbalance at non-cash transfers when transfers from bank And in bank Would exceed transfers from in, certainly, is physically transported And.

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote:> the Author does not consider a C that in the USSR there was a socialism. Not important that the author considers, it is important that so principals of the USSR considered.

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote: the C> Now it can and it seems original. But transits time, and build the USSR a socialism will not name, only unsuccessful attempt to construct a socialism. For what you so hate Russia? Your way, its destiny - to show to remaining people all new and new samples of a wrong socialism? Can look is easier at other people who could suit normal life, and arrive as they? Japan, Korea, China arrived so - and at them it turned out. Why Russia not to arrive as?

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> Everything that knows qwerty is a content of the book of Pol Hejne "Economic mentality". It is a pity that you do not know even it. A> It seems that he read only this book, and all. You are mistaken, I still read "Capital". It is difficult to check In it, certainly. As well as to read. And here you, seem to me, it did not read. Unless heard that Rabinovich sang.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: a C>> Since difference of a socialism from capitalism in three basic conditions: P> It is your personal representations about differences, an unknown and not clear origin. And yes, incomes of the investor -  From what it? The person fairly earned money. Understood where to enclose, and it too work. On yours that earned all it is necessary ? Banking percent on yours too incomes of the investor incompatible with your socialism? A C>> I Hope for you there will be no discovery what under the modern capitalism mass of workers already frequently co-owners? What in it erratic? P> anything, but at what here a socialism? Really and? I about capitalism wrote.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> the Only thing that it is possible to expect is a revival of political life, appearance of new politicians, open discussions about ways of development of Russia. Though somewhere and once arrival of communists to the power promoted revival and a variety of political life? It is possible to count certainly that Grudinin actually not the communist... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote:>> the Author does not consider a C that in the USSR there was a socialism. Q> it is not important that the author considers, it is important that so principals of the USSR considered. All in the world rather. If construct a socialism cease to name.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: the C>> Tried only the very first. Wrote reversal to Pavel Grudininu. In details to count it did not turn out, but digits in a sentence are made not up. Q> we begin that Grudinin your reversal at all does not see. And if sees, does not read more than two lines. And if reads, all the same will not do anything. To me, for example, it became boring right after words "All reserves to try to make inflation zero". Because she badly obeys governors. You in vain think that the president or the chairman of the Central Bank have any pen, rotating which they control inflation. She lives and besides their will if for example people for any reason took out money from grists and decided something to buy on them there will be an inflation. Or on the contrary, if the president decides to produce all on 10 , but the situation in the country will be unpredictable this money for rainy day therefore no inflation will exist want to put by the majority. Secondly, words "all reserves" assume that you imply a dollar exchange rate inflation. Because only it can be regulated reserves. But dollar growth is not inflation about what I many times wrote. Also sentences about restriction of salaries of employees are naive. As well as a sentence to forbid the expensive crediting - if you do not want it to take - do not take, and if someone takes such credit, it means to it is necessary also cheaper to it do not give. When reached automation of public services, wanted to stop reading, but here on eyes the paragraph "State Planning Committee Creation got..." Also it became clear that it is the next communistic nonsense. Road, the normal stablly developing economy can be only private. And the only thing that should do the government is to be interested at capitalists that hinders them to develop. Here you the good fellow, try to understand and much already understand. But still not all. 1. Inflation can be controlled, it is necessary to know as well as have all levers for this purpose. Alone neither the government, nor the Central Bank, the president cannot control. 2. Reserves are necessary not on rouble exchange rate maintainings, it to support just not difficult generally without reserves, and for output of credits. Under new small rates originally there will be many hunters. To take under 4 %, to translate in dollars or euro, to wait a rouble collapse (it does not have trust) and to extinguish the credit. If in the answer a few to raise a rouble exchange rate that general taking of credits to stop. 3. Inflation now high because rates of natural monopolies and the price for gasoline permanently grow. They should be fixed, the prices for fuel even hardly to reduce. For this purpose it is necessary to reduce excises. Reserves accordingly are necessary. 4. A State Planning Committee in my concept key structure. Without scale planning now there does not live any powerful economy. Plus the State Planning Committee is ideally suited for collection of all information on economy. I.e. it and the MAYOR, both statistics, and budget compilation, both planning, and control of expenditures of the government in one structure. Q> generally, it would be desirable to tell that you in vain rest any hopes of Grudinina. If it select (that hardly) anything to change it in essence does not begin. The only thing that it is possible to expect is a revival of political life, appearance of new politicians, open discussions about ways of development of Russia. And then to following choices there can be the candidates, capable to remove Russia from an oil needle and to direct to the necessary channel. Probably in vain, but seeing as it is "wetted" by all television channels, understand that are rather afraid only of it. Besides it in a command, and a command not only from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Q> when you write any sentences, it is necessary to begin with presentation of problems which, in your judgement, face the country and their reasons generated. Then to state the measures, which these problems can correct. You enumerate certain measures (restriction of the salary of state officials) which should any solve our problems suddenly inexplicably. And relationships of cause and effect? I tried to give the development concept, instead of the textbook on economy. Any, even the best measure does not help to solve a problem, even one problem completely. Only the series of measures with the general of concepts can (and that not the fact) to solve problems.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: the C>> Now it can and it seems original. But transits time, and build the USSR a socialism will not name, only unsuccessful attempt to construct a socialism. Q> for what you so hate Russia? Your way, its destiny - to show to remaining people all new and new samples of a wrong socialism? Can look is easier at other people who could suit normal life, and arrive as they? Japan, Korea, China arrived so - and at them it turned out. Why Russia not to arrive as? Yes you precisely did not understand about effective economy. About what you tell that, I and offer for a long time. The market as in Korea and Japan, stock exchanges and state purchases as in Canada, control as in Singapore, taxes as in the USA and France, formation as in the USSR. And here if to understand that justice it too stimulus, and not small, to development you will understand why correctly to build the present socialism.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> If you do not understand something, it is better not to show it publicly, and to try to understand and understand. Q> as to transportation of money yes, there are such people - collectors. They transport money not only from shops in banks, but also between banks. And between the countries too it is necessary to transport them, and differently as your way you in a grist had dollars? Or you think, what in Saratov the branch of FRS-OVSKY printing house works? Or can them transfer on the Internet? When Putin connected Crimea, there too it was necessary to deliver money, somewhere in  about it even wrote. If this subject is interesting to you, can esteem, on this subject even detectives removed, as somewhere in mountains the plane transmiting money fell. Q> though yes only that part of money which forms a disbalance at non-cash transfers when transfers from bank And in bank Would exceed transfers from in, certainly, is physically transported And. You wrote it and thought that I will not find your post old, by no means. I am able to use search and I give your words: Q> As to trucks - that yes if the flow of non-cash transfers the durable time is directed to one side they should be transported physically including by trucks. And your way whence in Russia there were cash dollars? Whence there were in Crimea roubles? If your firm obtained the credit in bank (non-cash, it it is finite) it is spent including for the salary of workers, on payment of gasoline by drivers and other cash expenditures. Whence cash in your opinion undertakes? To transport a clearing settlement by trucks - what flight of fancy!!! And the Internet through water pipes can still start up? And here ponder upon the words. Q> once again: non-cash there are only calculations. Money always cash. Ingeniously, a bravissimo.

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote: a C> All in the world rather. If construct a socialism cease to name. That - present, under your recipe?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> As to transportation of money yes, there are such people - collectors. They transport money not only from shops in banks, but also between banks. And it is normal between bank and  the Central Bank, under what circumstances there can be a necessity to transport a cash between banks Q> And between the countries too it is necessary to transport them, and differently as your way you in a grist had dollars? Or you think, what in Saratov the branch of FRS-OVSKY printing house works? Or can them transfer on the Internet? When Putin connected Crimea, there too it was necessary to deliver money, somewhere in  about it even wrote. If this subject is interesting to you, can So you obvious things write it. Q> though yes only that part of money which forms a disbalance at non-cash transfers when transfers from bank And in bank Would exceed transfers from in, certainly, is physically transported And. And here it also begins. Keyword - "the correspondent account", all interbanking calculations transit through them, any relocation  in banking system happens only only for operation with .... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: a C>> All in the world rather. If construct a socialism cease to name. P> that - present, under your recipe? That. The concept of a market socialism any more has not enough time, under this concept Broz Tito in Yugoslavia, the Scandinavian countries, Dan Sjaopin in China tried to develop. Because of strong  concepts in Yugoslavia and China and not the complex approach in the Scandinavian countries faced set of problems. The Scandinavian approach to me is more to liking, from nevertheless leans against common sense more and does not add ideology. Anybody also did not speak that will be easy. Environmental capitalism is protected, hinders with development in a socialist direction. Only China also remains. But there very special specificity.

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Hello, Cornetov, you wrote:> Anybody also did not tell a C that will be easy. Environmental capitalism is protected, hinders with development in a socialist direction. Only China also remains. But there very special specificity. To declare the present and it is unique true own imaginations "on a subject" a little unduly self-confidently, it not seems? And once again I will repeat, the idea of the investor is directly opposite to a socialism that you it would not name - Soviet, Yugoslavian, Scandinavian, the European social democratic idea. Moreover,  in general as a level of population are despised even under capitalism though parasitize on limitation of its economic system.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>