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Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: 3V>> Tashchemta I agree. IT> With nonsense? To produce poverty is a last resort. To me this argument always seemed crazy. "To produce poverty" - you for other people you decide that they have no right to leave children. Being itself thus the representative of dying out population. Here these here shouting about "to produce poverty" remind impotent men trying to forbid sex, type we can not also another we do not give.

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A> But it does not mean that it is necessary to produce as much as possible the illiterate cattle capable only on trust and patriotism. The cattle capable only on egoism and  in back is necessary?

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Hello, _ABC _, you wrote: A>> But it does not mean that it is necessary to produce as much as possible the illiterate cattle capable only on trust and patriotism. _AB> the cattle capable only on egoism and  in back is necessary? The cattle is absolutely not necessary. It finally is a source of the majority of problems, including geopolitical.

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A> the Cattle is absolutely not necessary. Self-critically you... Or you without the slightest grounds carry yourself to ? A> it finally is a source of the majority of problems, including geopolitical. I.e., the majority of wars of the beginning not elite of the states?

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Hello, _ABC _, you wrote: A>> the Cattle is absolutely not necessary. _AB> Self-critically you... _AB> Or you without the slightest grounds carry yourself to ? Then name the main criteria of cattle and  in your understanding A>> it finally is a source of the majority of problems, including geopolitical. _AB> I.e., the majority of wars of the beginning not elite of the states? And who will execute orders? Who goes under bullets? Intelligency? Yes never. Relations between elite and cattle are under construction on  and lining of chains of rank hierarchy. The intelligency is out of these relations, sideways, therefore is quite often perceived by cattle (and elite) as the weaklings who are not the Present Muzhiks (well or the Present Women in a female case). Thus an intelligency distinctive feature is immunity to primativno-rangovym to the codes, for example in the form of the propagation previous untying of any war. Also important line of intelligency is the tendency of the relation to the state as to servicing service to which the person pays taxes, and service should for it fulfill certain functions. To be at war for the sake of got a false idea about itself goodness knows what service? Too very strongly I doubt. Well and among other things at intelligency the outlook and richer a world pattern is wider, it is much more difficult to them to suggest that there - enemies, instead of the same people.

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Hello, cheerysoft.com, you wrote: CC> In Russia for the left year was born for 10-11 percent of less children, than in 2016, unfortunately, consciousness level at a forum does not hold out before arguing of such problems. It is easy for seeing if to lift my subjects on a demography. The natural increase was negative in 2016, by the way. http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/pop … -chisl.xls

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> Unfortunately, consciousness level at a forum does not hold out before arguing of such problems. It is easy for seeing if to lift my subjects on a demography. I translate into Russian, decent, instead of haughtily haughty. "Unfortunately, not all agree with my brilliant idea  all demographic phenomena ' waves '"... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, cheerysoft.com, you wrote: CC> Here such here a variant. A stupid variant. Not early spoilage should be resolved, and women to deprive of the equal rights with muzhiks. It solves at once an array of problems. And birth rate raises also corks disappear. Other question - birth rate, if what for is necessary to the people and so , available operation cannot load.

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Hello, cheerysoft.com, you wrote: CC> If we wish to rescue Russia from demographic catastrophe - it is necessary to resolve early spoilage ... From what age? And with what are now resolved?

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: N> To me this argument always seemed crazy. "To produce poverty" - you for other people you decide that they have no right to leave children. Being itself thus the representative of dying out population. Speech about the state decisions so I to you will reveal secret - the state always solves. In this case speech about stimulation. And so - I for that did not stimulate thus - since it will be stimulation of that produce poverty. In some states reaches direct prohibitions for the clear reasons - the state has the right to solve including such questions. N> here these here shouting about "to produce poverty" remind impotent men trying to forbid sex, type we can not also another we do not give. The next nonsense from you.

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Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: N>> To me this argument always seemed crazy." To produce poverty "- you for other people you decide that they have no right to leave children. Being itself thus the representative of dying out population. IT> about the state decisions so I to you will reveal secret - the state always solves speech. In this case speech about stimulation. And so - I for that did not stimulate thus - since it will be stimulation of that produce poverty. What means to produce poverty? You whence know whom there will be the adult child who has grown in a poor family? And how many scientists grew in ? How many children grew after war without fathers, lived from a loaf to a loaf and became outstanding scientists, doctors, inventors, designers. Well here think who you such and who for example Bokerija (the cardiologist which). You need to be lulled simply now, because against Bokerija you easier zero. Why you think, what your current earnings are more important for the country? Especially for Abramovich you generally differ nothing from the vagabond at station ZHD, on its gradation you too it is necessary in the expenditure.

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A>>> the Believer? Then yes, Pzz>> It is better is not necessary you the believer. Believing in the ignorance. A> I also do not claim for knowledge of Absolute True Claim, claim. A> but both I do not talk in riddles, and I try to argue for any expression. I too do not talk in riddles. Simply I assume that my opponent though a little something knows and though is able to argue a little. And at more simple level I am not able to state. It is my lack.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: S>> Unfortunately, consciousness level at a forum does not hold out before arguing of such problems. It is easy for seeing if to lift my subjects on a demography. P> I translate into Russian, decent, instead of haughtily haughty. "Unfortunately, not all agree with my brilliant idea  all demographic phenomena ' waves '" not my Idea. But even washing explanations that we transit peak of a demographic wave (Putin's success with birth rate) did not help. We wait for your "thoughts" explaining natural decline in population 2016-2017. And coordination with Putin.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: CC>> In Russia for the left year was born for 10-11 percent of less children, than in 2016, S> Unfortunately, consciousness level at a forum does not hold out before arguing of such problems. It is easy for seeing if to lift my subjects on a demography. S> the natural increase was negative in 2016, by the way. http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/pop … -chisl.xls the Problem in what?

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A> Then name the main criteria of cattle and  in your understanding the hoof cattle has also horns.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> But even washing explanations that we transit peak of a demographic wave (Putin's success with birth rate) did not help. The wave peak coincided improving of an economic situation and optimism of the population. S> we Wait for your "thoughts" explaining natural decline in population 2016-2017. Impairment of an economic situation. S> and coordination with Putin. In the modern Russia to coordinate to Putin everything is possible, everything, often validly. "Waves" in a demography this real phenomenon. But they are blurred, and very quickly - the reproductive age is comparable with the period of these waves watched in a reality, instead of with time of peak of peak or a dip. And almost all "waves", it is possible except for the first post-war, are very well inscribed in a current social and economic situation.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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The first thought concerning this initiative: the Variant of leaving from article for seduction of the juvenile. (Especially in the light of the last judicial events)

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: IT>> With nonsense? To produce poverty is a last resort. N> to me this argument always seemed crazy. "To produce poverty" - you for other people you decide that they have no right to leave children. Being itself thus the representative of dying out population. N> here these here shouting about "to produce poverty" remind impotent men trying to forbid sex, type we can not also another we do not give. . Anybody forbids nothing. It is not necessary to knock into head 16-18- of people that it would be time to them to think of the state interests and to charge itself with a clamp, the majority from which it simply does not pull.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Other question - birth rate, if what for is necessary to the people and so , available operation cannot load. And operations full! Other question that do not pay for this operation, as for operation. From here the aspiration at first also grows to live for itself and to earn, and already then to give birth to so much children, how many you can provide. At least it so at reasonable people. It is necessary not to aspire to a birth of children at any cost, and to increase of a standard of living of people that at them the head supported children, instead of for where still to be thrust, that superfluous copeck to earn.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> I not so can understand that this priest wants to tell. In Russia quite legally it is possible to marry and give birth to the child in 17 years. I.e., anything new it is not necessary to do, all already is. Only here it is not enough interested persons. He like quite clearly told: Early spoilage relieve the country of an unnecessary huge contingent with higher education. And that, see, many the clever divorced, understand. Think everyone and money in church do not carry, and it 12 kiddies suffer without X th .

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A> And who will execute orders? Who goes under bullets? Intelligency? Yes never. However to the Second World War went as pretty, except especially  fighters of the Tashkent front. To sense from it special was not, but as gun meat worked. A> relations between elite and cattle are under construction on  and lining of chains of rank hierarchy. The intelligency is out of these relations, sideways, therefore is quite often perceived by cattle (and elite) as the weaklings who are not the Present Muzhiks (well or the Present Women in a female case). Here where the doggie rummaged. Well a companion does not understand, it appears, a servicing role of this interlayer. The intelligency, anonymouse2, services ruling class. And anything more. This shit of the nation as correctly wrote V.I.Lenin. It will serve any who pays as demonstrated 90-s'. A> Thus an intelligency distinctive feature is immunity to primativno-rangovym to the codes, for example in the form of the propagation previous untying of any war. Also important line of intelligency is the tendency of the relation to the state as to servicing service to which the person pays taxes, and service should for it fulfill certain functions. To be at war for the sake of got a false idea about itself goodness knows what service? Too very strongly I doubt. Yes, the intelligency has also this, and many different other cockroaches in a head. A> well and among other things at intelligency the outlook and richer a world pattern is wider, it is much more difficult to them to suggest that there - enemies, instead of the same people. And it also should not be suggested anything. Tomorrow come to anonymouse2, give it  the sample of 1947 with ,  and / second-hand, and it goes to be at war for Russia-mother because differently it shoot simply down as the deserter. And it will creatively apply the outlook and a world pattern exactly until the same people from that side do not shoot down it. If brains does not include, certainly. But it hardly, judging by your writing.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> I too do not talk in riddles. Simply I assume that my opponent though a little something knows and though is able to argue a little. And at more simple level I am not able to state. It is my lack. What it is possible to know about "spiritually-physical essence"? The modern higher technical education (and others too) does not operate with such concepts. What should I think? Orthodoxy? Islam? The Buddhism? ? Esoterics? ? Or the use of beautiful phrases purely for appearance the phrase without special sense is simple  a brain, i.e.? After all some and the higher nervous activity manage to name "spirituality", mixing thereby concepts in the most inconceivable image. And still there is a mass of figurative values - "rich inner world", "morals", "adherence of any religion" etc. When we speak about something material there is a high probability that we speak about same. When speech comes about "spiritual" in force  the term as a rule everyone means something the which quite often are not concerning absolutely not those that the interlocutor means. Therefore if you mention "spiritual" - that to uncover it better as it is possible was more specific to cut all possible incorrect interpretation in advance.

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Hello, ssp_alex, you wrote: _> He like quite clearly told: Early spoilage relieve the country of an unnecessary huge contingent with higher education. _> and that, see, many the clever divorced, understand. Think everyone and money in church do not carry, and it 12 kiddies suffer without X th . It he told, yes. But it only an opinion, instead of  a sentence. And here in what its sentence consists, to me it is not so clear. P.S. I, by the way, too think that at us too many people go into higher education. On statistican, whether 60, whether even 80 percent of graduates of schools arrive in HIGH SCHOOLS. In what good it does not result, so much people with higher education are not necessary to economy. As a result, training level in HIGH SCHOOLS falls, the people with the diploma do operation where any diploma and it is not required and to go to work as the simple seller in shop, it is necessary generally  from the neighboring countries to deliver.