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S> But even washing explanations that we transit peak of a demographic wave (Putin's success with birth rate) did not help. We wait for your "thoughts" explaining natural decline in population 2016-2017. And coordination with Putin. I can agree with the theory of waves. But even in the given context it do not agree with peak. It is a question of recession which try to tighten different means - in the beginning the parent capital, now programs on support of young families and on a birth of the first child more likely.

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Hello, L.Long, you wrote: LL> And to it also it is not necessary to suggest anything. Tomorrow come to anonymouse2, give it  the sample of 1947 with ,  and / second-hand, and it goes to be at war for Russia-mother because differently it shoot simply down as the deserter. And it will creatively apply the outlook and a world pattern exactly until the same people from that side do not shoot down it. If brains does not include, certainly. But it hardly, judging by your writing. You are right, certainly. Difference of intelligency just that intelligency it from the very beginning understands all.

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Hello, LuciferNovoros, you wrote: LN> And operations full! Other question that do not pay for this operation, as for operation. From here the aspiration at first also grows to live for itself and to earn, and already then to give birth to so much children, how many you can provide. At least it so at reasonable people. It is necessary not to aspire to a birth of children at any cost, and to increase of a standard of living of people that at them the head supported children, instead of for where still to be thrust, that superfluous copeck to earn. Practice, however, shows that the more the people earn, the give birth less. It is interesting that when the people start to receive less, to give birth any more do not begin. More shortly, the mankind in historically deadlines dies out. And a horse-radish with it.

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: Pzz>> I too do not talk in riddles. Simply I assume that my opponent though a little something knows and though is able to argue a little. And at more simple level I am not able to state. It is my lack. A> that it is possible to know about "spiritually-physical essence"? The modern higher technical education (and others too) does not operate with such concepts. I want to tell that the physical, corporal side of the person has absolutely not smaller value, than it --- the side (do not know, even, what to take the term not to cause unnecessary associations). Even in itself sharing on physical and not-material  extremely artificial and on the facts not based, in the person these sides are very tightly bound. To you any made secular psychologist confirms it. Therefore ideas that children instead of people will be given birth by the machine, they . It is important to person to give birth and be the born natural way (the fact  from  is important not, and all set of corporal relations between mother and the child who thus are present). So your favourite science hardly changes it, and do not dream. A> that I should think? It is useful to think generally. It in every possible way develops the person, and, speak, there is statistically a significant correlation between occupation by intellectual activity and reduction of risk of development of Alzheimer's disease.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: S>> But even washing explanations that we transit peak of a demographic wave (Putin's success with birth rate) did not help. P> the wave peak coincided improving of an economic situation and optimism of the population. S>> we Wait for your "thoughts" explaining natural decline in population 2016-2017. P> Impairment of an economic situation. That is, 20 years ago was born less girls of what the future the situation economic worsens? So the wave will go on recession as early as years 10

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: A>> In Russia for the present the secular state without a domestic tyranny and Sheriyat, with a priority of personal values over values of herd (a sort,  or as they there are called). S> You here can  bosh only thanking  to generations which lived not for itself, and for descendants Any vanilla bosh. If to the previous generations offered today's a prosperity, to pension, etc. - a horse-radish they so much children would get medicine, police, for simply it is not necessary. The big families were a survival question, instead of self-sacrifice themselves for the sake of descendants.

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S>> But even washing explanations that we transit peak of a demographic wave (Putin's success with birth rate) did not help. We wait for your "thoughts" explaining natural decline in population 2016-2017. And coordination with Putin. S> I can agree with the theory of waves. But even in the given context it do not agree with peak. It is a question of recession which try to tighten different means - in the beginning the parent capital, now programs on support of young families and on a birth of the first child more likely. Recession began in 2016. Before there was a rise

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: A> You are right, certainly. A> difference of intelligency just that intelligency it from the very beginning understands all. Difference  that understanding it from the very beginning, the intelligency will not do anything, except how to fray it on kitchen (or on the Internet, there would be a difference). And the peasant, understanding it is not worse at all, in the fullness of time leaves from the house, and goes to live in wood or on a bog that to it AK-47 did not give. It because the peasant can survive in wood or on a bog, and to the intellectual even on kitchen badly is.

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Hello, TG, you wrote: TG> Uzbagojsja. Anybody forbids nothing. It is not necessary to knock into head 16-18- of people that it would be time to them to think of the state interests and to charge itself with a clamp, the majority from which it simply does not pull.  in a head 16-18- to people that it would be time to think about state interests, is called as patriotic education. By the way, it begins earlier 16. In my opinion, it happens from uncertainty  husbands that to their interests to the person with not washed out brain can be though any business.

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Hello, TG, you wrote: S>> Unfortunately, consciousness level at a forum does not hold out before arguing of such problems. TG> the Problem in what? Judging by a question to very few people it allowed even to realize a problem simply. And how it to consider?

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: CC>> Here such here a variant. A stupid variant. Not early spoilage should be resolved, and women to deprive of the equal rights with muzhiks. It solves at once an array of problems. And birth rate raises also corks disappear. It is Somehow rather weakly argued

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S> Recession began in 2016. Before there was a rise How much I remember, just on recurrence there should be a recession, but approximately since 2010 could deduce in small rise. I also mean it, when I say that try  recession.

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Hello, LuciferNovoros, you wrote:> Other question - birth rate, if what for is necessary to the people and so , available operation cannot load. LN> and operations full! Other question that do not pay for this operation, as for operation. If do not pay, it not operation, and a hobby. LN> from here the aspiration at first also grows to live for itself and to earn, and already then to give birth to so much children, how many you can provide. It at whom so that "how many you can provide"? All whom I know in a state to provide much more children, than they really gave birth. The limiting factor at all support. And just desire "to live for itself" which is expanded as a result on all life. LN> at least it so at reasonable people. Absolutely reasonable city  generally to children does not give birth. For economically to give birth to children in a city not favourably. In village - variants there are still possible. LN> it is necessary not to aspire to a birth of children at any cost, and to increase of a standard of living of people that at them the head supported children, instead of for where still to be thrust, that superfluous copeck to earn. So level raised to the transcendental. How there lived our average ancestors only one hundred years ago, the modern average Russian practically at communism lives.

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Hello, cheerysoft.com, you wrote: CC> If we wish to rescue Russia from demographic catastrophe - it is necessary to resolve early spoilage ... CC> Early spoilage relieve the country of an unnecessary huge contingent with higher education. Who needs higher education? In the moron! It I about . After all people, and people who can be used in the industry and agriculture are necessary to us not simply. And  suggests to produce biped animals who are able to guzzle only  and to strike. It is not necessary for us. It is necessary for it? It because it - .

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Hello, Denwer, you wrote: D> That means to produce poverty? You whence know whom there will be the adult child who has grown in a poor family? And how many scientists grew in ? How many children grew after war without fathers, lived from a loaf to a loaf and became outstanding scientists, doctors, inventors, designers. Well here think who you such and who for example Bokerija (the cardiologist which). You need to be lulled simply now, because against Bokerija you easier zero. Why you think, what your current earnings are more important for the country? Especially for Abramovich you generally differ nothing from the vagabond at station ZHD, on its gradation you too it is necessary in the expenditure. You, apparently, misunderstand. I understand it absolutely differently. Important not an absolute amount of money, and a taken place and a role in society. Post-war years were heavy for all country and I at all would not began to name those people beggars or cattle. At them, in mass, was everything is all right with motivation, vital setting. The poor prosperity was only temporal problem which is not dependent on people. And if today when conditions for development and possibility of self-realization are unlike wider, people have enough brains only on thumping cheap alcohol, to degrade and breed - that here it is already possible to ask a question about cattle and poverty.

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Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: IT> about the state decisions so I to you will reveal secret - the state always solves Speech. In this case speech about stimulation. And so - I for that did not stimulate thus - since it will be stimulation of that produce poverty.  Lomonosov month stamped to Moscow in bast shoes if on 10000 units of poverty 1 genius comes across - that better  to produce this poverty

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Hello, LuciferNovoros, you wrote: LN> it is necessary not to aspire to a birth of children at any cost, and to increase of a standard of living of people the modern experience shows that increase of a standard of living leads to birth rate lowering

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> "Waves" in a demography this real phenomenon. But they are blurred, and very quickly Are not present. They are gradually blurred in normal conditions. In Russia natural demographic recession coincided with 90 and it strengthened it. In 90 was born in 2-3 times of less children than in 80. Now the wave bottom again coincided with deceleration of economy and should give birth to generation 90. Birth rate it will be almost inevitable in 2 times less, than 10 years ago. More likely truth that efforts of the government on direct supports of a demography play a secondary role.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> Is not present. They are gradually blurred in normal conditions. In Russia natural demographic recession coincided with 90 and it strengthened it. In 90 was born in 2-3 times of less children than in 80. Only that natural natural demographic recession has been caused not by "wave", and end of conditions of rise of birth rate second half 80. S> truth that efforts of the government on direct supports of a demography play a secondary role is faster. Primary the social and economic situation, instead of efforts of the government plays.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> That is, 20 years ago was born less girls of what the future the situation economic worsens? On  birth rate influences not a prime number of women at genital age, but also (partly their husbands) desire to have children and that how many children they wish to have them.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, SomeOne_TT, you wrote: SO _> Hello, cheerysoft.com, you wrote: CC>> Here such here a variant. SO _> wildness and obscurantism. Pedophiles on a march.

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Hello, v6, you wrote: v6> You, apparently, misunderstand. I understand it absolutely differently. Important not an absolute amount of money, and a taken place and a role in society. Post-war years were heavy for all country and I at all would not began to name those people beggars or cattle. At them, in mass, was everything is all right with motivation, vital setting. The poor prosperity was only temporal problem which is not dependent on people. v6> and if today when conditions for development and possibility of self-realization are unlike wider, people have enough brains only on thumping cheap alcohol, to degrade and breed - that here it is already possible to ask a question about cattle and poverty. I not absolutely understood, during what moment it is necessary to kill children? To forbid to be born, but whence you know whom there will be a child? To kill after 21 years if that that did not reach? Why you think, what poor parents cannot bring up the future genius? Or here an example of the reverse. Our governor. Like high position and a role in society. The son the addict and a bruise. Well and how what children will understand?

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Hello, Denwer, you wrote: v6>> You, apparently, misunderstand. I understand it absolutely differently. Important not an absolute amount of money, and a taken place and a role in society. Post-war years were heavy for all country and I at all would not began to name those people beggars or cattle. At them, in mass, was everything is all right with motivation, vital setting. The poor prosperity was only temporal problem which is not dependent on people. v6>> and if today when conditions for development and possibility of self-realization are unlike wider, people have enough brains only on thumping cheap alcohol, to degrade and breed - that here it is already possible to ask a question about cattle and poverty. D> I not absolutely understood, during what moment it is necessary to kill children? To forbid to be born, but whence you know whom there will be a child? To kill after 21 years if that that did not reach? Why you think, what poor parents cannot bring up the future genius? To what you  murder? Anybody about murder did not speak (you do not consider condoms as weapons of mass destruction? And that after all each time some millions potential the person are killed.). PS poor financially - can bring up the genius. Poor mentally and morally - hardly probable.

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Hello, v6, you wrote: D>> I not absolutely understood, during what moment it is necessary to kill children? To forbid to be born, but whence you know whom there will be a child? To kill after 21 years if that that did not reach? Why you think, what poor parents cannot bring up the future genius? v6> to what you  murder? Anybody about murder did not speak (you do not consider condoms as weapons of mass destruction? And that after all each time some millions potential the person are killed.) . I wrote it to that while the child does not grow up, it begins impossible to tell whom it, the genius or  cattle. At the moment of condom usage it is impossible to make any outputs about the future child, therefore we wait 21 years and we make the decision upon. Here from here and murder. v6> PS poor financially - can bring up the genius. Poor mentally and morally - hardly probable. As we quickly passed that from the monetary poor to the mental poor. How it has something in common with words "to produce poverty"? How to define the mental poor?