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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It appears, we not only are not able to do the turbine any more, but also generators. Last time, when Siemens refused to deliver turbines, me convinced that it were gas turbines which at us did not do (though it strongly doubtfully). And what now, at us do not do even the elementary electric equipment? And you now start to convince, what with the industry to Russia everything is all right, it develops rough rates? And does not degrade at all? And were able to do? On Yenisei half of river fleet during the USSR was foreign construction, and after all it not super-sea steam-ships, and normal river dry-cargo ships and . Practically the barge Or here the Finnish river ice breaker -

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It appears, we not only are not able to do the turbine any more, but also generators. And anything that it about generators to absolutely other turbines. Now that, any import goods from any group of the goods will cause a panic in you "we are not able to do this group of the goods" But if to you interesting that yes, with ship power-plants at us not so.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: Q>> It appears, we not only are not able to do the turbine any more, but also generators. P> and anything that it about generators to absolutely other turbines. Anything. Even are generators not for power station, and for any vessel worse. But even them at us do not do. P> now that, any import goods from any group of the goods will cause a panic in you "we are not able to do this group of the goods" Well, in general, yes. Except what in the USSR really did not do. P> but if to you interesting that yes, with ship power-plants at us not so. And generally there are goods, with which at us "very much"?

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> if in Russia there was an industry, it not should to buy generators in any  Finland For example,  775 projects of the USSR entirely bought in Poland. Whether means it, what in the USSR the industries were not?

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> And generally there are goods, with which at us "very much"? https://zimport.ru/cel-proekta/it is blurred, rather inconcrete task, truly? And if in digits: the Branch the Current share of import the Purpose by 2020 Civil aircraft construction more than 80 % of 40 % Heavy mechanical engineering of the order of 70 %, 35 % the Oil and gas equipment of 60 %, 40 % the Energetic equipment about 50 %, 30 % Agricultural mechanical engineering (depending on production category) from 50 % to 90 % of 20 % appears , it when you on the Energetic equipment not on 50 % depend on foreigners, and on 30 %

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> Anything. Even are generators not for power station, and for any vessel worse. But even them at us do not do. From what and  at us them to do, if vessels of multiyears did not let out, this state can for  hold mobilization capacities and occasionally order something. Civil manufacture without orders dies.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Karamat, you wrote: K> For example,  775 projects of the USSR entirely bought in Poland. Whether K> means it, what in the USSR the industries were not? It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the .

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . Well, so and now we the orders support the countries .

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: Q>> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . VD> Well so and now we the orders support the countries . Your way it is good? Whether to support the, domestic companies is better? Then also sanctions will be not terrible.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . On shipyard were under construction, in the core, the military ships for fleet of Poland, the USSR, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and East Germany. The landing ships, the hydrographic, saving and educational ships were under construction

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . With shipbuilding in the USSR was not so. The military ships certainly generally built. But here I get on on  in search of the Soviet passenger courts of ocean liners or a class of sea passenger courts. While any constructed in the USSR did not find. All can in merchant marine fleet was better... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> But here I get on on  in search of the Soviet passenger courts of ocean liners or a class of sea passenger courts. Our people in a bakery in holiday do not go by ocean liners. Therefore them also did not build. But a horse-radish with it, shipbuilding. Speech about the electrical engineer.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> your way it is good? Whether to support the, domestic companies is better? Then also sanctions will be not terrible. To support the undoubtedly it is necessary, but not to marasmus. If the need individual easier to buy from those who on it knew inside out. Here if there is a constant sale of hi-tech production it is necessary to support the manufacture. But not it makes sense to do all. There is an international division of labor.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> Our people in a bakery in holiday do not go by ocean liners. Therefore them also did not build. It agree, the special need for them like was not. But ordered, and on shipyards of friendly GDR, and not so brotherly Yugoslavia, and even in Britain would buy. And they likely did not stand idle. Vessels of some projects series on ordered.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . Aha, especially Finland was in . Still worse, on the Soviet submarines the equipment from Germany was used.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> But if to you interesting that yes, with ship power-plants at us not so. I when in office which was engaged in the military ships, worked, I remember was  in 14-15 year that any project is postponed for pair-triple years as the power-plant like in Germany was bought, and here - oh. UPD Or, can, I with Ukraine confused Germany the Author: Sammo Date: 16.01 06:59

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: q> And generally there are goods, with which at us "very much"? Is. Certain . Which at us, after destruction of retaliatory psychiatry - an overabundance. avalon/2.0.3

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> to Support the undoubtedly it is necessary, but not to marasmus. If the need individual easier to buy from those who on it knew inside out. Here if there is a constant sale of hi-tech production it is necessary to support the manufacture. But not it makes sense to do all. There is an international division of labor. Now the idea is finished to marasmus "not mandatory to do everything, something is possible and to buy". As a result we do not do anything that does us vulnerable before any sanctions. The international division of labor is means with which help the developed countries do not allow to develop the underdeveloped. And that they checked in that that underdevelopment is useful to them, they named this method "division of labor", only international. After all all know that from division of labor only favor - after all it means that each person is engaged in that is interesting to it that turns out is better. Also do not note that this principle applied to the countries, turns to the contrast: if you managed to be born in Russia (Honduras) - that your destiny to go to tundra and to swing oil (to go on a plantation and to collect bananas). And of high technologies also do not dream!

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: Q>> It means that the USSR the orders supported the countries  because differently they could not sell anywhere the . M> Aha, especially Finland was in . Still worse, on the Soviet submarines the equipment from Germany was used. Whence ? I in Soviet period worked in the KB doing electronics for aircraft and I can tell that import accessories there was - 0 (zero). In any product developers beat out the French connectors of firm Souriau - and that, thanks to that that any factory started their copying and they should appear soon the. So  told, it was necessary what to receive them at the minister, it personally opened the safe and produced connectors. So it is not necessary to flood about the German equipment for submarines.

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Hello, DenisCh, you wrote: DC> Is. Certain . Which at us, after destruction of retaliatory psychiatry - an overabundance. Judging by comments - very much the other way. Excess of those who rejoices to that Putin destroyed the Russian economy. Well and that that we became vulnerable to sanctions - so it  malicious on us, not though to us to sell.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> So it is not necessary to flood about the German equipment for submarines. So that periscopes were removed from German submarines of times of the Great Patriotic War Seriously long on the Soviet submarines were used. And not only on submarines.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> Now the idea is finished to marasmus "not mandatory to do everything, something is possible and to buy". As a result we do not do anything, It not so. It is Enough to look at the same turbines. At us much that becomes.