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Topic: "Antigravity" on gyroscopes

Here there was video where the antigravity based on gyroscopic effects is shown type: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo video like as all speaks it: no antigravity is present, the effect is based on other load distribution on muscles and on something else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMpdBjA2SU I badly recognize English speech, plus absolutely forgot high school course of mechanics. The request to view video that who easily recognizes English - whether really the miracle is cancelled? Here still video on a subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9QSiVC2g0

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Re: "Antigravity" on gyroscopes

Whether K> really the miracle is cancelled? Yes, the miracle is not present. Change .

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Hello, Ejnstok Fajr, you wrote: whether K>> really the miracle is cancelled? > yes, the miracle is not present. > change . And can eat all the same? You video looked?

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> And can eat all the same? You video looked? Then other question: why it twists this gyroscope only in the same side (clockwise)? What should happen, if he tries  this  in the opposite direction?

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: MD> Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K>> And can eat all the same? You video looked? MD> then other question: why it twists this gyroscope only in the same side (clockwise)? What should happen, if he tries  this  in the opposite direction? I think, then it with huge force would strike it in a stomach.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Here there was video where the antigravity based on gyroscopic effects is shown type: What  antigravity! Gyroscopes that-whether did not see? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505p2Pe69Lk here more courageous uncle twists twirls over a head - https://youtu.be/aj-RClXNloc? t=108 Let rises on scales that with untwisted that with not untwisted its indications with the rod does not change. - that a gyroscope at the expense of the energy the rotation plane, to be exact its energy of rotation does not allow to change effect is spent hindering, if someone decided it to reject. The rod with a disk both weighed, and weighs, but presses downwards instead of twists a paintbrush. Here present  - https://youtu.be/S2sxW5wQm8I? t=30

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: K>> And can eat all the same? You video looked? MD> then other question: why it twists this gyroscope only in the same side (clockwise)? Because it in northern hemisphere. MD> that should happen, if he tries  this  in the opposite direction? The gyroscope quickly stops faster. Forces of Coriolis and so on.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: >> yes, the miracle is not present. K> And can eat all the same? You video looked? Video did not look, at me here sad , there in video that that similar to it? Lecture 11. Gyroscopes. A precession of a gyroscope under the influence of exterior forces. The elementary theory.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> And can eat all the same? You video looked? (facepalm)

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: MD> Then other question: why it twists this gyroscope only in the same side (clockwise)? What should happen, if he tries  this  in the opposite direction? Not it twists it. It is a precession: it holds an axis for one end; gravity tries to turn an axis downwards, and the precession leads to that there is a force turning an axis clockwise. To twirl an axis reversely, it is necessary to make efforts, reverse on the moment.

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Hello, Stanislaw K, you wrote: SK> Hello, Khimik, you wrote: >>> yes, the miracle is not present. K>> And can eat all the same? You video looked? SK> video did not look, at me here sad , there in video that that similar to it? SK> Image: image027.gif SK> Lecture 11. Gyroscopes. SK> a precession of a gyroscope under the influence of exterior forces. The elementary theory. Like there it in the third my video. It is unimportant, as it to name, I would tell in another way. On video strange gyroscopic effects are shown. Perhaps, these effects can be used for construction of flying machines? On the first video the system with two twisting moments works. And if to add and the third moment, i.e. to a twisted piece to attach one more  - can be, generally it turns out unprecedented ? In a subject: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/__ Cimmerman

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Hello, Ejnstok Fajr, you wrote: > change . It is possible on Heisenberg.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> it is unimportant, as it to name, I would tell in another way. On video strange gyroscopic effects are shown. Perhaps, these effects can be used for construction of flying machines? These effects  only for those who at school did not study the physics, and at institute studied not at theological faculty or astrology faculty. And those who construct flying machines, I assure, about existence of gyroscopic effects in course, and they in course about them from the very beginning of aircraft development.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Here there was video where the antigravity based on gyroscopic effects is shown type: K> video like as all speaks it: no antigravity is present, the effect is based on other load distribution on muscles and on something else: Rotating body hold a hand far from the center of gravity. As a result of it there is the notable rotating moment generated in pair of opposite directional forces: a hand - gravity. This rotating moment is directed on  to an axis of a rotating body therefore there is a precession which cyclical frequency can be calculated under simple formulas. Normal gyroscopic effect. Certainly, for lack of rotation, the body behaves absolutely differently. And demonstrators simply do not have force of a paintbrush to create the sufficient rotating moment resulting a body in horizontal position. Thus both of them without special work lift a body over the earth. So to speak about "" in this case it is possible only counting on absolutely the naive spectator [Upd] the Most "surprising" moment, in my opinion, that fact here is that the spin axis by gravity bends not downwards, and is turned sideways. At the same time it easily speaks by means of a mathematical model. The pulse moment can be considered as a vector directed along a spin axis, and proportional angular rotational speed (if to be more exact, angular speeds equal to product at the moment of inertia of a body concerning a spin axis). The same as and to normal forces and pulses, by the moments of forces and pulses we apply the superposition principle: if on a body some moments of forces that the resultant moment of pulse operate will be equal to the total  the component moments of pulses. In our case, the axis of a rotating body is allocated horizontally and the vector of its moment  coincides with a spin axis and can be directed to one, or in other side, depending on a rotation sense. The pair of forces a hand - gravity creates the pulse moment which vector is allocated also horizontally, but always  to the instant spin axis. By a rule of parallelograms the resultant vector also appears allocated horizontally, but slightly rejected sideways. Thus the spin axis too drifts in the same . The moment component , caused in the pair forces a hand - gravity also is continuously turned, therefore as it is always perpendicular the instant spin axis.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> it is unimportant, as it to name, I would tell in another way. On video strange gyroscopic effects are shown. Perhaps, these effects can be used for construction of flying machines? I will tell more - already in the Soviet years did here such experimental flying machines, but after disorder of the USSR the designer documentation has been lost. http://glavmex.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f … mp;start=7 only it is a lot of years later in the country the western analog, and the extremely primitive came: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3326188

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: MD> Only it is a lot of years later in the country the western analog, and the extremely primitive came: MD> https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3326188 somebody Can explain, what generally such these ? I both video looked, and Vicks esteemed, and still did not understand an essence.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> On video strange gyroscopic effects are shown. Perhaps, these effects can be used for construction of flying machines? It is possible to begin with bicycles and motorcycles.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> I badly recognize English speech, plus absolutely forgot high school course of mechanics. It how many needed to be thumped to forget experiences with gyroscopes? All right formulas and the theory - but unless can be forgotten demonstrations

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MD> Then other question: why it twists this gyroscope only in the same side (clockwise)? What should happen, if he tries  this  in the opposite direction? So matter of course, the boomerang effect will be. It will press down to the earth...

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> It how many needed to be thumped to forget experiences with gyroscopes? All right formulas and the theory - but unless demonstration can forget It if it was, this demonstration. "And now, children, we write laboratory operation. The equipment at us in an office is not present, therefore we write down for me..."