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Topic: Hostility of new technologies - a sign

Whether it was possible to you to communicate with old programmers (yes, not developers namely programmers) which wrote on a Turbo Pascal and similar? Well and which then were not inscribed, i.e. threw as did not master the new. At all that that , they began to hate this new, as it to them seemed to less reasonable than old. Here it was possible to me. For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Windows Windows not convenient for operation, only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). And I looked at them and thought - and after all and I sometime such will become. Only technologies already will be others about which even think now I can not. And now I note this hatred at local which pejoratively concern besides . Even gross national product understands that this future - and they it name "the list about a hash an ohm" And here I understood - at some already began. And at all that that they cannot master technology - they simply hate it all fibers of soul. It seems to them that it is similar MMM, and meanwhile this future when all are equal in a society and already is not present officials and solved. The similar relation to . Not that cannot master that - and simply name it  and useless nonsense, loss of the power over the code. Thank God did not note behind itself such. And after all sometime and I will be among them... And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Windows Windows not convenient for operation, only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). Really it is more convenient to you in Windows to work an explorer?

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What, more low 8000 fell?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? At me and to old technologies constant hostility. And the reason for that is laziness. Laziness to read the documentation. In a youth laziness was about STL to read, itself containers implemented. About synchronization principles in multicontinuous applications too was laziness, would see mine  ! ++ 11/C ++ 14 I only last year at the full capacity started to use a C, and all because laziness even Wikipedia was to esteem on this subject. The best stimulus to self-development this visiting of specialized training courses and conferences for the account of the employer and in working hours

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Hello, , you wrote: S>> And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? > aha,  and other it   Nodazhs , well. And generally irrespectively :  now managers of packets. Each language almost with itself carries the npm, pip and other cpan. Also begin in there  all who feel like it to interpose...

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: S>> For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Windows Windows not convenient for operation, only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). M> Really it is more convenient to you in Windows to work an explorer? All life I work in an explorer (or analog of type Finder). It is convenient me. Tried and Far and other, simply sense I do not see. Any operations there can and it is more convenient, but it is not necessary to me.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> It was possible to you to communicate with old programmers (yes, not developers namely programmers) which wrote on a Turbo Pascal and similar? I such on TurboC wrote. More precisely not so. I wrote for VAX/VMS. And TurboC (as well as all ruler IBM-PC) was for me new foolish technology, beautiful, but unnecessary. S> and you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? The majority of these of "new technologies" for a long time already on a dump, and I still continue . And to pension me it is still very far... Yes, by the way: https://rsdn.org/forum/life/7041907.1 the Author:  Date: 02.02 14:35

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And now I note this hatred at local which pejoratively concern besides . Even gross national product understands that this future - and they it name "the list about a hash an ohm" S> And here I understood - at some already began. And at all that that they cannot master technology - they simply hate it all fibers of soul. It seems to them that it is similar MMM, and meanwhile this future when all are equal in a society and already is not present officials and solved. You mix at once some concepts - ,  and a turn .  be finite th it cannot "" is simple technology. It how to tell about OOP and to attract to it Windows, written with application of this approach and still to attract here Microsoft business together with Bill. Well or if about  - to transpose estimation  on the relation to pieces of paper and presses.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? Noted, but not the general. Something is pleasant, something is not pleasant.

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S> And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? I know nothing about  and  and I do not plan to learn I have no experience with  and hardly I will receive it is impossible to be in time all and so to learn full all - it is necessary to select

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> It was possible to you to communicate with old programmers (yes, not developers namely programmers), It will be possible I today for it  S> which wrote on a Turbo Pascal and similar? . S> Well and which then were not inscribed, i.e. threw as did not master the new. Well not absolutely what did not master, but yes, much modern does not cause delight and  to study it and furthermore to use not especially pulls. S> at all that that , they began to hate this new, as it to them seemed to less reasonable than old. Well I here hate the modern vebo-cloudy technologies. But there are nuances - on  levels not as the programmer though it is clear that JS and others a shit  but while there is a possibility deeply not to be picked this shit. As it are not pleasant to the user, for two reasons 1. Desire of software producers by means of cloudy technologies, and without  too whenever possible to anchor the user more strongly, to "seize" it , to have an opportunity unceasing it . With kommerchesko-marketologicheskoj  it is clear everything, but looks very unworthy, and as to the user at all it is not pleasant to me. But it certainly is beyond talk about technologies of software development and to the relation to them. 2. Absolutely  the interface  applications. The reason is clear, in itself them  combined with desire what it though as-who  on all. But it  reduces productivity of operation of the user in times, nevertheless  became norm and even standard UI S> For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Those who on a Turbo Pascal wrote He versions with the second if I am not mistaken  and TurboVision can consider it as standard  of window library. S> Windows Windows not convenient for operation, Windows Windows are convenient for operation, and here  the explorer is inconvenient. S> only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). Far. S> And now I note this hatred at local which pejoratively concern besides . Incorrectly you note,  it simply technology, it will be possible useful claimed, and here to characters,  dance and jump with joy I suppose that in coin' and everyones there ICO found  on an overflowing of the material resources from  people to myself, truly, the relation such. But it again talk not about program technologies. S> even gross national product understands that this future - and they it name "the list about a hash an ohm" Incorrectly name?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Windows Windows not convenient for operation, only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). Probably, they were and are right in some measure. Not all new technologies are progressive, evolution (including technological) can move and towards regress. S> and now I note this hatred at local which pejoratively concern besides . Even gross national product understands that this future - and they it name "the list about a hash an ohm" It is simply annoying for those to whom it is not interesting. S> the similar relation to . Not that cannot master that - and simply name it  and useless nonsense, loss of the power over the code. And those who understands, too so speak. Much , bothers. S> and you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? And not only. To everyones  and to units-tests.

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Hello, Ejnstok Fajr, you wrote: > That, more low 8000 fell? And at me  practically also was not, to me that of that to endure There are others . I to you told at once the Author: Shmj Date: 26.01 18:55 the crowd ran, began by radio about  songs to sing - write disappeared.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And you as, noted behind yourselves hostility of new technologies? No, I simply more conservatively and carefully approach in due course to new technologies, understanding that that in essence new in new technologies is not present. A floor-mat. The device for  is invented neither today and nor yesterday. A floor-mat. The device for  - too is invented neither today and nor yesterday. And basically  it is possible  to consider as a chain of units of hashes. Uncle Vova... , and you are assured, what it does not confuse  and ?  - it is real , since neither a fig nor means for real long-term investment. Not  when your long-term investments for the short period go down in price twice. In general, too high  at these numeral currencies. Not in all cases  is a variant, for some tasks enough graded-index  or other algorithms of training, but are not present, ,  - rescue us, it is a silver bullet, a hammer in machine training As and in a case with . It is necessary to use for the task more suitable tool, instead of on a turn. You forgot, one more fashionable word:  date. Too a know-how, a floor-mat. The device for which has more years, than for  And so note: about 8 years ago there was a mode on , then  date, now . And now a mode about  date and  it is similar that transited.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> You mix at once some concepts - ,  and a turn .  be finite th it cannot "" is simple technology. People so do not consider: And the situation with  reminds Krylov's fable "the Monkey and points": Hate .

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Hello, , you wrote: And where there hatred to ? I with points  deride monkeys. Points  are not guilty. Well and an example of usage in a place result? Can you it is simple did not understand an essence ?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Hello, , you wrote:>> And where there hatred to ? I with points  deride monkeys. Points  are not guilty. S> well and an example of usage in a place result? Can you it is simple did not understand an essence ? To a word about monkeys and e https://bananacoin.io Bananacoin The first environmentall friendly plantation in Laos which has released a utility token based on Ethereum, pegged to the export price of 1 kg of bananas.

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Hello, , you wrote: Easily. For example, Cryptokitties. And you explain what is it? As on me - so all games . But here write that it was possible to earn. If to earn without  it is necessary  financial institution and to do a substitute of money. So? I.e. all rests against the state registration which can forbid - to tell that this casino. So? Engaging  not so senselessly turns out?

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Hello, Sheridan, you wrote: S> Nodazhs , well. Here invent NoJS, we begin to live.

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Hello, , you wrote: S>> Well and an example of usage in a place result? Can you it is simple did not understand an essence ? Easily. For example, Cryptokitties. More actually - it is possible to buy and sell a celebrity https://cryptocelebrities.co/marketplace/

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Hello, white_znake, you wrote: _> And so note: about 8 years ago there was a mode on , then  date, now . And now a mode about  date and  it is similar that transited.  already patterns draw also clients ring round, it was not 8 years ago.

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Hello, , you wrote: , ! It you to me tell, what for there  in  which also undermines the throughput because of this game. That it was possible to sell/buy. Game. What for people to Las Vegas go? Or you want to forbid gamblings? To earn - is not present, there do not work. To gain money for course gamble - well probably it is possible. But for gamble itself  and  are not necessary, future contracts work and without it. And if simply to conclude a bet also financial institutions are not necessary. And to do cats - unless not operation? After all initially someone made, earned. Further with them speculate. Than badly? Game. S>> engaging  not so senselessly Turns out? You "an essence " TM    ?  with  you do not confuse?  all are based on , differently in any way.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> It was possible to you to communicate with old programmers (yes, not developers namely programmers) which wrote on a Turbo Pascal and similar? In the neighbourhood there lived the professor lived the years 70, once programming modeling of physical processes somewhere in Academy of Sciences. Learning that I too program, it threw out on me ton of a negative in the spirit of "polymers". Say, it was necessary to develop not that Aspektno the Oriented Programming, not that Problemno Oriented. And all of us to Americans merged. I understood that the general subjects at us is not. And then it died. And any more you will not ask...

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M> Learning that I too program, it threw out on me ton of a negative in the spirit of "polymers". Say, it was necessary to develop not that Aspektno the Oriented Programming, not that Problemno Oriented. And all of us to Americans merged. M> I understood that the general subjects at us is not. M> and then it died. And any more you will not ask...  is fresh enough like, not earlier 90 so is faster

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: whether S> It was possible to you to communicate with old programmers (yes, not developers namely programmers) which wrote on a Turbo Pascal and similar? What else it is Turbo Paskakal? A Turbo C 2.0, and only! S> For example, the same OOP to them seemed useless. Windows Windows not convenient for operation, only for fools it is convenient type (is Norton Commander, it is much more convenient). What else Norton? Bare command line! S> and I looked at them and thought - and after all and I sometime such will become. Only technologies already will be others about which even think now I can not. You will not become. At first it is necessary to master command line. S> and now I note this hatred at local which pejoratively concern besides . Even gross national product understands that this future - and they it name "the list about a hash an ohm" Well so it and is  with . S> the Similar relation to . Not that cannot master that - and simply name it  and useless nonsense, loss of the power over the code. Yes there and the code is not present.