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Topic: China named Su25 stuff

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> the link Was specific that plane that forced down - and was stuff, unfortunately. Besides, it exploited in the dangerous image.

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> the link "Two vagabonds crucified and ate the prostitute! Shock-content" That, is direct all China named? -25 - an attack plane, an old Soviet attack plane. Planes of the given class generally there are 3-4 types and among them it . It is strange to read about "the slow plane" - among attack planes it the fastest. THAT to warning system about  - there is no system which notifies about start  with a passive head of induction, for example the infrared.

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Hello, SomeOne_TT, you wrote: SO _> Su-25 - an attack plane, an old Soviet attack plane. Planes of the given class generally there are 3-4 types SO _> and among them it the best. Them some more modifications. Here there was the oldest that in a system. Here all, unfortunately, rests against frivolous volumes of output of the military equipment in  - the situation is similar to a state to the First World War when like good samples and are, but volumes of output of all main groups of arms lag behind the main competitors ten times.

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G> the link At Chineses till now the Balalaika from 60 flies years also other stuff which at us removed from arms about 30-40 years ago. -25 - the suitable plane. Strong, simple and cheap. At some instant in the world there was a thought that after appearance of high-precision ammunition planes like Su-25 or -10 are not necessary, Americans were going to write off the, but then thought suddenly. Excellent planes, and at whom they are not present, use  in the spirit of World War II attack planes (with the modern arms and electronics certainly).

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> the link I, to put it mildly, not  on aircraft, especially military, but all the same would be desirable to see a reference to the source. At first I found "an English" variant of article: China called the Russian su-25 old | Russian news EN The Soviet su-25 are outdated for participation in modern warfare, and Russia for economic reasons are unable to upgrade them to more advanced su-39. This writes Chinese edition Sina.com. As it is easy to note, the author of article MGIMO finished. The built in search in a site Sina.com produced from  only it: Russian pilot killed after plane downed in Syria: defense ministry -  News - SINA English is shorter, I in . Perhaps Michael Syritsa (Michael Syrytsa) the unknown author of Russian-speaking news leans against the Chinese variant of article?

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: N> Them some more modifications. Here there was the oldest that in a system. Here all, unfortunately, rests against frivolous volumes of output of the military equipment in  - the situation is similar to a state to the First World War when like good samples and are, but volumes of output of all main groups of arms lag behind the main competitors ten times. Here it do not agree, parity in conventional army we can reach only transfer of all country into military rails. It is necessary to us? We have a nuclear weapon which allows not to spend all gross national product for planes and submarines. It and is good.

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Hello, SomeOne_TT, you wrote: SO _> Here it do not agree, parity in conventional army we can reach only transfer of all country into military rails. It is necessary to us? SO _> we have a nuclear weapon which allows not to spend all gross national product for planes and submarines. It and is good. Them against Ukraine you will apply?

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> the link According to authors of a material, instead of planes like Su-25 is more expedient to use razvedyvatelno-shock flying , for example, Chinese Rainbow CH-4 Ooo, these children for the sake of sales of the and not write the such.

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G> the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_XmxT3lsGE

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Hello, SomeOne_TT, you wrote: SO _> THAT to warning system about  - there is no system which notifies about start  with passive head SO _> inductions, for example the infrared. Is. On all modern fighters is, on Armatu put. ,  radiation of the rocket engine marks.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> Hello, SomeOne_TT, you wrote: SO _>> THAT to warning system about  - there is no system which notifies about start  with passive head SO _>> inductions, for example the infrared. S> is. On all modern fighters is, on Armatu put. ,  radiation of the rocket engine marks. She sees only start, without time for purpose capture. Time for response has not enough.

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: N> Them some more modifications. Here there was the oldest that in a system. Here all, unfortunately, rests against frivolous volumes of output of the military equipment in  - the situation is similar to a state to the First World War when like good samples and are, but volumes of output of all main groups of arms lag behind the main competitors ten times. Nonsense. The real problem is the surface ships. On tanks we on former ahead of all competitors, and times in ten On air defense on the first place in a huge lift-off. On  on the first place (here not from good life: the USA the successful rocket also we earlier developed the ABM a smaller problem). On  on the second place (most likely). On tactical ballistic missiles on the first place. On manufacture of planes/helicopters we on 2 place, but capacities the USA on the order, and even on two have more. On  on the first-second place. Here right now anybody at all does not build strategic bombers, at us manufacture of Tu-160 continues. Other question that Europe at the big desire can almost on all positions us surpass on the order (if it will very much be strained and spends years 5). The USA not so it is necessary to be strained for this purpose.

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Hello, Lazytech, you wrote: L> is shorter, I in . Perhaps Michael Syritsa (Michael Syrytsa) leans against the Chinese variant of article? As usual the paper endures the Internet

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> As usual a paper the Internet endures Judging by that Syritsa in an English  as smartly, as notorious Friday, at me the big doubts concerning its knowledge in the field of the Chinese language. P.S. I apologize, the correction: the author of the "English" text - not Syritsa, and certain zolik. P.P.S. Once again I apologize: it appears, Michael Syritsa - the author of a photo, but not news article.

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Hello, wraithik, you wrote: S>> Is. On all modern fighters is, on Armatu put. ,  radiation of the rocket engine marks. W> she sees only start, without time for purpose capture. Time for response has not enough. And? How it changes not fidelity of statement SomeOne_TT?

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Hello, Kodt, you wrote: Hands to tear off to all those lawyers-kopirastam who prompt to editors the Internet-smi to hide traces on the primary source. It is faster  at the beginning of the Internet so advised, and inert conservatives - owners of sites are afraid to change rules.

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Hello, wraithik, you wrote: W> She sees only start, without time for purpose capture. Time for response has not enough. Then shooting of traps automatically begins.

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: N> them against Ukraine you Will apply? For a long time it is time.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> here right now anybody at all does not build Strategic bombers, at us manufacture of Tu-160 continues. States will build too . There is a certain specificity of the registration in  3, doing such building by the favourable. Washington Times: such mismatch in number of the torn American and Russian warheads can be also result of that Russia used openings in this contract. In determinations there are some complexities that influences registration process. It is considered that bombers carry one nuclear  though actually they can carry much more. Therefore, as informs the Russian agency Sputnik News, at Russia actually will be 2100 torn strategic nuclear charges, instead of 1550, provided under the contract. According to Federation of the American scientists, a real amount equally approximately 2500. Russia declared that constructs still at least 50 nuclear bombers of Tu-160. Each of them can carry 12 cruise missiles in nuclear equipment. Therefore at Russia it can appear 550 not considered nuclear warheads, and as a result its number torn  reaches approximately 3000, that is, almost twice there is more than the ceiling provided -3. Besides, Russia by 2021 plans to upgrade 98 % of the intercontinental ballistic missiles, and by 2020 to put into operation eight new submarines of the project "Borej", equipped with ballistic missiles "Mace". http://inosmi.ru/world/20151022/230965378.html

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: and now we translate a sight at the industry and it is visible absolutely other pattern and you still held back that against ours 1500 planes at  them 4500, and together with  6000 (it only shock, without transport and  aircraft) on helicopters we lag behind twice. So without the nuclear weapon we will be in an ass, and it in restricted conflicts will not apply

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Hello, andyp, you wrote: A> States will build too . Will be. "B-21" to year to 35th departs. At the best. In significant amounts appears to year to 40.