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Topic: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: They hold speed which it is convenient. If you can so easily be discomposed, do not get into the car. Especially in the rain.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. At you it is right it is necessary to select for a long time

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. People put cruise on minimum possible and are engaged in the affairs. Give a signal - the people distracts from coffee/telegram and releases to you a row.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. Well I see a rain went. And behind Artemka go.   meal then.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> Well I see a rain went. And behind Artemka go.   meal then. It  directly: saw in a mirror  - lower speed to-20 to a limit.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H> They hold speed which it is convenient. If you can so easily be discomposed, do not get into the car. Especially in the rain. Can and so. But, for example, Moscow, at any smallest rain, rises in corks.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. Because are afraid to go quickly. Visibility is much worse, especially in side glasses, a brake way it is more. In ours - also holes it is not visible to a reality. Well you as on a limit where  - then learn. I support wild braking under a rain, but here the appeal to a limit - all so not so.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those>> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. G> well I see a rain went. And behind Artemka go.   meal then. For the sake of it to Australia even moved?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> another Goes such -20 to a limit on one band, and -20 on other band. Or  start from a traffic light,  speed up up to a following traffic light. Enrage it is unreal. And now present, as they during snow/ice go. Also let grow a healthy indifference. Without it on roads there is nothing.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: W>> Because are afraid to go quickly. Visibility is much worse, especially in side glasses, a brake way it is more. In ours - also holes it is not visible to a reality. Those> But after all are not afraid to exceed in dry weather and at night!  that - also panties . All rises in corks from such unfortunate drivers. Why you consider, what it is the same people? Numbers wrote down?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Ops, you wrote: H>> They hold speed which it is convenient. If you can so easily be discomposed, do not get into the car. Especially in the rain. Ops> can and so. But, for example, Moscow, at any smallest rain, rises in corks. It would be better, if stood because of failures?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Ops>> Can and so. But, for example, Moscow, at any smallest rain, rises in corks. M> it would be better, if stood because of failures? And unless it is not necessary?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: Ops>>> Can and so. But, for example, Moscow, at any smallest rain, rises in corks. M>> it would be better, if stood because of failures? M> and unless it is not necessary? I so understood Ops' that costs  not because of failures on , and that all start to be very cautious and if were not soared and went as usual all would be

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> it would be better, if stood because of failures? From what? You know, on , for example, the road accident most part just in these toffees 0-40, the people falls asleep or sticks in phone, and catches up with the previous. In other day everyone 5-10 such pattern. And when all goes, road accident where is more rare.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Ops, you wrote: M>> it would be better, if stood because of failures? Ops> from what? You know, on , for example, the road accident most part just in these toffees 0-40, the people falls asleep or sticks in phone, and catches up with the previous. In other day everyone 5-10 such pattern. And when all goes, road accident where is more rare.  as there on , and on  corks in the core of that unreeled someone through all road

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> Hz as there on , and on  corks in the core of that unreeled someone through all road Such happens, but is rare enough, here these caught up in cork happen on orders more often. But here speech that in any crude weather reduce speed absolutely disproportionately. Here there is a limit 100, and it is possible almost always unless a shower a wall, or put in the winter so much. Well it is fine, throw off to 80, if . But they 40-50 .

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Ops> But here speech that in any crude weather reduce speed absolutely disproportionately. Here there is a limit 100... Well it is fine, throw off to 80, if . But they 40-50 . And then wheels on one side get to a pool and the driver cannot retain the machine...

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> And then wheels on one side get to a pool and the driver cannot retain the machine... What for a pool on MKAD? It is possible coordinates?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> Speech about a limit 60 and accordingly,  under 40. Under a torrential rain on asphalt it is possible to go easy 60-70. I hesitate to ask, and what visibility at a torrential rain? Think, does not decrease? Whether the side review in glasses and the mirrors which are not cleared by yard keepers working in the maximum mode is convenient? Whether normally it is visible pedestrians in the clothes which have darkened from a rain on the asphalt which has darkened from water? On how many good audibility, whether deafens noise of a rain road sounds? An individual question about pedestrians the majority from which dresses hoods on the occasion of a rain, essentially reducing itself the review and audibility, and starts to pass in large quantities roads where leaks less, and not just there where on idea it is necessary. Think, it is not necessary to consider this factor? Only it is not necessary to say that it is their problems. Drive - become, at least, the general. What, at last, happens to a brake way of the car? And, separately, a question about what can happen to the car and its brake way in conditions at which it is impossible to predict in advance precisely depth of that, or other pool? Hydroplaning on one side at the emergency braking can appear very unpleasant piece. I.e., in the conditions of spherical road to vacuum when is equal a straight line  from which all machines are certainly remote, pedestrians etc., to millimeter the height of a road covering both other and other is adjusted, it is possible and 200 to go, without looking at a rain. And here in the conditions of a typical city... We tell so, the probability to walk smack at 60-70 during a rain jumps up on the order, no less than possible consequences. And further everyone selects, that he wants - to spit on growth of probability and to go as usual, or to lower speed and to return probability in comprehensible boundaries. That is is specific at you yet was not situations after which  "racers" pass in discharge "well , better more slowly, but it is more reliable" - typical "an error survived".

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> Hello, wraithik, you wrote: W>> Because are afraid to go quickly. Visibility is much worse, especially in side glasses, a brake way it is more. In ours - also holes it is not visible to a reality. Those> But after all are not afraid to exceed in dry weather and at night!  that - also panties . All rises in corks from such unfortunate drivers. A habit question. If the person permanently goes in dry weather, he knows, that to expect from the machine. And when the rain, appears a lot of additional  factors. Clever people in such situation normally reduce speed, reducing risks.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> That for a pool on MKAD? It is possible coordinates? The track, it every year on spring , in any country, basically, even (even) in Australia not a rarity -  heats asphalt, the waggon presses through, and here you are, in a shower hydroplaning - .

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, aik, you wrote: aik> the Track, it every year on spring , in any country, basically, even (even) in Australia not the rarity -  heats asphalt, the waggon presses through, and here you are, in a shower hydroplaning - . During a drizzling rain on  in it there is no water, before you already 100 times squeezed out all. I about a drizzle write, instead of about a shower a wall.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> Hello, wraithik, you wrote: W>> Because are afraid to go quickly. Visibility is much worse, especially in side glasses, a brake way it is more. In ours - also holes it is not visible to a reality. Those> But after all are not afraid to exceed in dry weather and at night!  that - also panties . All rises in corks from such unfortunate drivers. An appeal to a limit - a nonsense. I on the dry exceed almost always, now began to be lazy and on a route meal +19 to put on cameras, earlier 130 ran. I go to a rain exceptional on circumstances, somewhere above a limit, somewhere more low. During a rain, especially in the beginning to depart from a route the task too simple to drive. Even I during this moment drop speed to 90-100, and meal very accurately. Rains often at you go?

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Ops> That for a pool on MKAD? It is possible coordinates?  from Australia, as far as I understand. So here not only for MKAD. The acquaintance on a section Kemerovo - Novokuznetsk (there a highway with restriction in 110) similarly got. It is good that speed was nearby 80 - was retained.

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Re: Re: Why many drivers in the rain?

Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> Topikstarter from Australia, as far as I understand. So here not only for MKAD. Hardly there roads are made strongly worse. S> the acquaintance on a section Kemerovo - Novokuznetsk (there a highway with restriction in 110) similarly got. It is good that speed was nearby 80 - was retained. And it it is exact in a pool got, instead of in a shower ? We here about a small rain, as though.