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Topic: The device of employees as

It is clear that the device of the employee as , is obvious big risk  in tax and big  . And if so: 1. We open the organization in Cyprus: Software Dev, Ltd 2. The organization concludes the contract with developer  in the Russian Federation. 3. The developer in the Russian Federation works under the patent. Whether there will be in this case at tax to me any claims, if I the resident of the Russian Federation. To bend Cyprian Ltd and to force pay  after all they cannot, in difference from local Open Company.

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Hello, c3p0, you wrote: a C> 1. We open the organization in Cyprus: Software Dev, Ltd a C> 2. The organization concludes the contract with developer  in the Russian Federation. A C> 3. The developer in the Russian Federation works under the patent. Whether Cs> Will be in this case at tax to me any claims, if I the resident of the Russian Federation. A C> to Bend Cyprian Ltd and to force pay  after all they cannot, in difference from local Open Company. But can bend you - you are going to get profit here. There is any law on the dependent companies. However it is possible to get from a spacer not financial profit, and product development, and for tax will look as though you created the program and sell licenses and receive from it the income. For example you  office does 2 similar programs. One is sold by her for self-support and payment .  the program is sold by you from yourself through the logger and receive classical  the income. Any "dependent" companies not  as there are no financial flows.

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C> 1. We open the organization in Cyprus: Software Dev, Ltd a C> 2. The organization concludes the contract with developer  in the Russian Federation. A C> 3. The developer in the Russian Federation works under the patent. Whether Cs> Will be in this case at tax to me any claims, if I the resident of the Russian Federation. A C> to Bend Cyprian Ltd and to force pay  after all they cannot, in difference from local Open Company. Who owner Software Dev? By the way, between Cyprus and the Russian Federation the agreement on disclosure  the Cyprian companies is already signed - i.e. tax will know that the owner of the Cyprian company - the Russian citizen.

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Hello, c3p0, you wrote: a C> it is clear that the device of the employee as , is obvious big risk  in tax and big  . A C> And if so: a C> 1. We open the organization in Cyprus: Software Dev, Ltd a C> 2. The organization concludes the contract with developer  in the Russian Federation. A C> 3. The developer in the Russian Federation works under the patent. Whether Cs> Will be in this case at tax to me any claims, if I the resident of the Russian Federation. A C> to Bend Cyprian Ltd and to force pay  after all they cannot, in difference from local Open Company. All overhead charge for this circuit are already counted? There is generally a financial advantage so ? Tax then proves that activity was conducted in Russia and except  also other taxes throws also period in places of confinement. A question of the totals. Can turn attentions will not be, can undertake and untwist all circuit.

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Hello, c3p0, you wrote: a C> it is clear that the device of the employee as , is obvious big risk  in tax and big  . And when the difference begins, between the developer works as  and the developer - the employee?  it as a matter of fact self-occupied, what hinders the person to appear as  and  to concern with the customer as the contractor? PS. I , also am not one customer with which in such format operation is organized.

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Hello, c3p0, you wrote: a C> it is clear that the device of the employee as , is obvious big risk  in tax and big  . And what criteria  from the tax? Here I long enough time cooperate as  with one commercial office, is parallel officially (the work record card,  etc.)  I work for rather small money in one state office. Once a year there are small single contracts with other firms, but the first - the primary client. In my case it is a lot of risk?

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K> all overhead charge for this circuit are already counted? There is generally a financial advantage so ? Just about... For the IT companies privileged insurance payments - 14 % to ~900kr/year and 4 % after a ~900kr/year on the employee. However, employees should be not less than 7 persons and 90 % of a gain should be from IT.

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S> Here I long enough time cooperate as  with one commercial office, is parallel officially (the work record card,  etc.)  I work for rather small money in one state office. Once a year there are small single contracts with other firms, but the first - the primary client. S> in my case it is a lot of risk? In your case risks zero, since you the physicist/ip. Risks arise at . The person who pays money  which has no other counterparts. I.e. if in your situation: 1. You would not conclude contracts with other offices. 2. At the company from which you work as , would be 5 more such  on . Your main company labor relations and  could make that. More shortly, risks if: 1. Open Company>  has relation one-to-many 2. > Open Company has relation one-to-one In your case: > Open Company has relation one-to-many Therefore risks is not present either for you or for Open Company.

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But can bend you - you are going to get profit here Are not present, I am not going to deduce profit. All is simple. One logger transfers money on Software Ltd. This office pays IP-shnikam in the Russian Federation. The second logger enumerates me on  in the Russian Federation. It is possible to balance somehow. There is any law on the dependent companies.  is not present. I do not touch company Software Ltd money absolutely. However it is possible to get from a spacer not financial profit, and product development, and for tax will look as though you created the program and sell licenses and receive from it the income. Yes, so. Who owner Software Dev? I i.e. tax will know that the owner of the Cyprian company - the Russian citizen. Yes, will be. Also that it gives to it. It cannot lock an abacus or bring an action and calculate . The company in another . All overhead charge for this circuit are already counted? There is generally a financial advantage so ? Accounting simple. For example: 10 persons of 100.000 roubles in a month - 12 million roubles a year : 13 %, Payments: 14 % - Total 27 % x 12M = 3.2 million roubles for a year. We subtract 0.2 on patents and 0.2 on the content of the company and . Service. As a result: 2.8M roubles pure plus a profit in the form of the company abroad. Tax then proves that activity was conducted in Russia and except  also other taxes throws also period in places of confinement. On the basis of what? Can turn attentions will not be, can undertake and untwist all circuit. Where here the circuit? Also what was specific can make I under laws of the Russian Federation? It is not clear yet. And when the difference begins, between the developer works as  and the developer - the employee?  it as a matter of fact self-occupied, what hinders the person to appear as  and  to concern with the customer as the contractor? If  works only from one customer, and for the customer such  10 it is very similar to labor relations.

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C> it is clear that the device of the employee as , is obvious big risk  in tax and big  . Probably it is possible, if yours  employees work through Upwork, that is without direct contact to you.

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If itself you will be the director and the shareholder recognize office as the resident of the Russian Federation and  on full If is not present, too expensive rises

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Hello, TailWind, you wrote: TW> If itself you will be the director and the shareholder recognize office as the resident of the Russian Federation and  on full TW> If is not present, too expensive there will be Donachisljat to whom? Foreign . To the person? It as? To the physicist-benefitsiaru? On what base?

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C> Donachisljat to whom? Foreign . To the person? It as? A C> to the Physicist-benefitsiaru? On what base? Recognize the legal person as the resident of the Russian Federation Because a command control center here

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C> All is simple. One logger transfers money on Software Ltd. The C> This office pays IP-shnikam in the Russian Federation. If IP-shnikov it is a little and they more or less constant ask them to register for the same logger and translate them "salary" of times in a month directly there. As a result instead of Software Ltd you will have your logger.

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MH> and when the difference begins, between the developer works as  and the developer - the employee? MH> PS. I , also am not one customer with which in such format operation is organized. The key moments on which the tax does an output that the contract with  is a method of optimization of taxes from PHOTOS: 1. At  there is only one customer 2.  works in territory of the customer. There still something was - tax in due time spread. So if not one customer problems most likely will not be.