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Topic: The poverty reasons in RSFSR

All suburbs lived in the USSR for the account of Russia. Decay of the Union confirmed it. We decided to compare - as there lived the former Soviet republics to an output from the general Union and as live now. Later after decay of the USSR we cannot understand till now Quarter of the century - why it happened? After all in the spring of 1991 for saving of the uniform country on a referendum 77,7 % of its citizens voted. And already by the end of the same year, using defeat , many union republics quickly cooked up the backward votings on which people demanded already independence. The argument at all was idle time: it we feed remaining Soviet Union. We work most. And other republics hang at us on a neck. And as soon as we get rid of these parasites, we begin to live not worse, than in Europe or America. Transited 25 years. It is possible to bring the first totals. Whether the former sister republics USSR began to live is better, becoming the proud independent states? Let's look. And what RSFSR? Tanks, guns, submarines and atomic bombs were Russian, in representation of the simple Georgian, the Uzbek or the Estonian of that time only. Still, perhaps, cars <Zhiguli> (however, all knew that they actually Italian, but strongly spoiled by "Russian hands"). But from the point of view of ideology the extremely important was alignment of a standard of living of different republics of the great USSR. Here only it is primary it strongly differed, therefore the big nestings were required. On it purely political moments were superimposed also. For example, from Baltic republics aspired to create some kind of <a socialism show-window>. The essence of the USSR was in maintenance and a robbery of the people of RSFSR, and decay of the Union showed it. Nevertheless, for quarter of the century Russia managed to rebuild economy, achieved it  independence. Manufactures which were earlier in union republics are created. And Russia is today a unique part of the USSR which not only did not lose the Soviet industrial potential, but also increased it. At par consumer ability of gross national product of Russia for 2015 made 2,5 trillion dollars or 121,9 % from level of 1991. And per capita (according to the World bank) gross national product of Russia for 2015 made 25,4 thousand dollars that in 1,45 times above, than to disorder of the USSR. Thereby it is necessary to recognize that Russians (with all stipulations on the increased foliation on rich and poor) all the same began to live better, than in Soviet Union. Almost in one and a half time! https://ok.ru/group56607900172326/topic/67190428112166

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Re: The poverty reasons in RSFSR

Hello, solarwind, you wrote: S> And per capita (according to the World bank) gross national product of Russia for 2015 made 25,4 thousand dollars that in 1,45 times above, than to disorder of the USSR. Thereby it is necessary to recognize that Russians (with all stipulations on the increased foliation on rich and poor) all the same began to live better, than in Soviet Union. Almost in one and a half time! Such here statistics seems to me silly. What is at the bottom of purchasing capacity increase? If to try to understand, whether it appears, what a principal cause - lowering of the cost price of manufacture in China? And also as a whole all over the world? There are similar counts for other countries? Whether there will be that at them a given growth even more, and consequently, we besides in a bum in comparison with remaining, if in essence.

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Hello, vl690001x, you wrote: whether V> there will be that at them a given growth even more, and consequently, we besides in a bum in comparison with remaining, if in essence. On-being migrants  to work in Russia, instead of from it.

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And still. Falling of value of dollar is not considered. Inflation on a place is not necessary. https://www.statbureau.org/ru/united-st … alculators So it is the cheap propaganda material.

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Hello, molin, you wrote: M> Hello, vl690001x, you wrote: whether V>> there will be that at them a given growth even more, and consequently, we besides in a bum in comparison with remaining, if in essence. M> on-being migrants  to work in Russia, instead of from it. It is clear, at them all is even worse. But it is not necessary to declare only that now we live more richly than at the USSR. If also there is such illusion for the reasons which I described above. There were a lot of the cheap consumer goods produced  by means of robots which can be bought. Even if it is the car, well and what? And still in CCC  was not, and now each student can buy on credit. It about what does not speak.

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Hello, molin, you wrote: M> on-being migrants  to work in Russia, instead of from it. By the way, you think, from Russia migrants do not go to work anywhere? Yes go still as. For example to South Korea, as most  sloggers - illegal immigrants. People are seduced with possibility to earn 70 - 150 thousand a month, and to pay off with credits. "Suddenly grown rich" postsocialist Russia, credits produces, and here possibility to earn does not give.

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Cool! And there is statistics as speed of processors for the same period changed? Well, and if it is serious that to us this comparing with  and , give it is comparable with that that happens in , , germaniums, . How much strongly we lagged behind for 25?

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Hello, vl690001x, you wrote: V> Yes go still as. For example to South Korea, as most  sloggers - illegal immigrants. V> people are seduced with possibility to earn 70 - 150 thousand a month, and to pay off with credits. V> "suddenly grown rich" postsocialist Russia, credits produces, and here possibility to earn does not give. As though nobody argues that in Seoul live more richly, than in Blagoveshchensk or Ulan-Ude.

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Hello, solarwind, you wrote: S> S> all suburbs lived In the USSR for the account of Russia. Decay of the Union confirmed it. Decay of the USSR is the most confidential operation of KGB. Here and the book is In a format of literary fantastic reading matter.

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Hello, vl690001x, you wrote: V> People are seduced with possibility to earn 70 - 150 thousand a month, and to pay off with credits. ?!

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Hello, solarwind, you wrote: S> S> all suburbs lived In the USSR for the account of Russia. Decay of the Union confirmed it. Decay of the USSR confirmed that after decay the economy of the former union republics suffered in a greater degree, than economy of Russia. Instead of that before suburb decay lived at the expense of Russia. S> nevertheless, for quarter of the century Russia managed to rebuild economy, achieved it  independence. Manufactures which were earlier in union republics are created. And Russia is today a unique part of the USSR which not only did not lose the Soviet industrial potential, but also increased it. At par consumer ability of gross national product of Russia for 2015 made 2,5 trillion dollars or 121,9 % from level of 1991. And per capita (according to the World bank) gross national product of Russia for 2015 made 25,4 thousand dollars that in 1,45 times above, than to disorder of the USSR. Thereby it is necessary to recognize that Russians (with all stipulations on the increased foliation on rich and poor) all the same began to live better, than in Soviet Union. Almost in one and a half time! Here that, compare the dollar totals of 2015 year to the dollar totals of 1991 year? Here so, directly, compare, without inflation of this dollar and without a dollar course change to rouble, an event for all this time?