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Topic: Access to the Internet if arranges war

The confectioner understands that its chances to remain are in power insignificant. And as understands that as soon as loses the power - chances to appear on  with confiscation are great. On it already checks mood of the people on martial law introduction. An occasion for  will be   center of Kiev. So the dream of some, perhaps, comes soon true and I cannot get you the posts any more. And, in this connection, I question about possible access to a network the Internet in the martial law. After all under the law the Internet and . Communication disconnect, . So? Double-sided satellite already , but it works through local . The provider. I.e. it works so - the companion is the bridge between me and the provider, the owner of the companion simply selected the channel and already as it to use - the provider solves. On it as soon as all ukro-providers disconnect - I will remain without the Internet Is still Iridium and similar which work through  companions. But there the traffic 1 MB -  5 dollars approximately, it ... Google of the Moon did not make. What alternatives? So, just in case I ask.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: : access to the Internet under United Nations laws - basic human rights

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Occasion for  will be   center of Kiev. S> so the dream of some, perhaps, comes soon true and I cannot get you the posts any more. It is necessary long,  to treat you an electroshock.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> What alternatives? So, just in case I ask. We somehow removed in Spain habitation at one rather eccentric German. It had a private residence on a grief, to reach there by the machine at night on breakaway edge there was that still exercise. The wife does not understand till now, why I on this "road" landed it because of a wheel. The cellular covering there almost was not, without speaking about the wire Internet. And so, this companion was bought by the Internet from it here the provider: https://www.skydsl.eu/en-NL/Personal/In … -satellite It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. Round-trip at it it is perfect , but bandwidth quite comprehended. The European Russia, like, gets to a cover zone. Means, and Ukraine, on idea, should.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Is still Iridium and similar which work through  companions. But there the traffic 1 MB -  5 dollars approximately, it ... Well, on RSDN to write/read - you will not be destroyed Though, can you will read less and more write - still saving

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Hello, wl., you wrote: wl.> Lajfhak: access to the Internet under United Nations laws - basic human rights Yes-yes, with deprived it  compensating through  .... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. There likely the equipment much more expensive. And the mbyte most likely is cheaper , but is more expensive than the one-sided. Whether so Shjm expects war...... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> What alternatives? So, just in case I ask. Galactic Internet

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: Pzz>> It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. P> there likely the equipment much more expensive. And the mbyte most likely is cheaper , but is more expensive than the one-sided. Whether so Shjm expects war... They generally there any copecks want, for the satellite Internet. Euro type 19 in a month for 5 gigabyte, or unlimited plus the equipment for a fifty-kopeck piece in a month (but not the fact that give the equipment in rent abroad).

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. Round-trip at it it is perfect , but bandwidth quite comprehended. You as understood me? Thought that I of type use the normal television antenna for reception and sending through the terrestrial channel? No, at me both channels and reception and transmission through the companion. Special setting transferring. BUT! The provider has the same plate as at me and the companion provides double-sided (both reception and transmission) the channel for us. In other country all is similar - in the companion of the Internet is not present. It only the bridge. Only in other country there can be their provider, this country or having resolution to work in the country.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: Pzz>> It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. P> there likely the equipment much more expensive. And the mbyte most likely is cheaper , but is more expensive than the one-sided. Whether so Shjm expects war... Business in the equipment. The double-sided satellite channel (as at me) - all the same goes through the provider. The companion provides only the bridge between points. And the provider will work what has the right of provision of services in the given country.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> They generally there any copecks want, for the satellite Internet. Euro type 19 in a month for 5 gigabyte, or unlimited plus the equipment for a fifty-kopeck piece in a month (but not the fact that give the equipment in rent abroad). At me approximately at the same price, too the double-sided channel. But in Ukraine it is provided with the Ukrainian provider. Another simply has no right to work. The companion only the bridge between me and the provider.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Business in the equipment. The double-sided satellite channel (as at me) - all the same goes through the provider. S> the companion provides only the bridge between points. And the provider will work what has the right of provision of services in the given country. Probably not at all satellite providers such circuit By the way, and paternal confidence, what Mask construct it the global Internet (well here we assume, what he dares  100500 companions for this purpose) will work not through local providers? At it even technically to implement other circuit on orders it is more difficult.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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S> the Confectioner understands that its chances to remain are in power insignificant. And as understands that as soon as loses the power - chances to appear on  with confiscation are great. On it already checks mood of the people on martial law introduction. S> an occasion for  will be   center of Kiev. Ukrainians repeatedly proved that are capable to defend the freedom from the tyrant (that anything with it then not to do) calm down already, all will be normal

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: Pzz>> It is the fair absolutely companion, without reverse channels everyone there through the local provider. Round-trip at it it is perfect , but bandwidth quite comprehended. S> you as understood me? Thought that I of type use the normal television antenna for reception and sending through the terrestrial channel? In Russia at one time there were  satellite providers at whom only the channel to the user went through the companion. And the channel from the user went any some other way (for example, through the telephone modem). It strongly reduces the price of a construction because it is not necessary to distribute to users the equipment, capable to send something on the companion, and it is not necessary to put on the companion the equipment, capable to accept from normal users. As a result it turns out that date transmission from the user more slowly and more expensively, than to the user, but for  the Internet it is not a problem.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: Pzz>> They generally there any copecks want, for the satellite Internet. Euro type 19 in a month for 5 gigabyte, or unlimited plus the equipment for a fifty-kopeck piece in a month (but not the fact that give the equipment in rent abroad). S> At me approximately at the same price, too the double-sided channel. But in Ukraine it is provided with the Ukrainian provider. Another simply has no right to work. The companion only the bridge between me and the provider. Well if you buy services at skydsl directly, and physically their companion finishes to Ukraine it would seem to whom what business, it has is right to work in Ukraine, or not. Your Ukrainian provider can quite be simply retail reseller of any similar children.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Well if you buy services at skydsl directly, and physically their companion finishes to Ukraine it would seem to whom what business, it has is right to work in Ukraine, or not. Here still an equipment question. They certainly can deliver its mail to any interested person in any country, whether on fear and on risk of the receiver irrespective of transfer of by mail not certificated equipment is considered customs violation in this country, but whether there will be they so to do. And whether "they" (who is not known) basically work with ultimate users bypassing national operators... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Business in the equipment. The double-sided satellite channel (as at me) - all the same goes through the provider. The companion provides only the bridge between points. And the provider will work what has the right of provision of services in the given country. It provided that in that jurisdiction in which there is a provider, to your country are respectful. Because except as with respect, the foreign provider generally does not have any reasons to observe a rule of your country.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Here still an equipment question. They certainly can deliver its mail to any interested person in any country, whether on fear and on risk of the receiver irrespective of transfer of by mail not certificated equipment is considered customs violation in this country, but whether there will be they so to do. And whether "they" (who is not known) basically work with ultimate users bypassing national operators Well it it is necessary to learn from them.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Well if you buy services at skydsl directly, and physically their companion finishes to Ukraine it would seem to whom what business, it has is right to work in Ukraine, or not. Pzz> Your Ukrainian provider can quite be simply retail reseller of any similar children. And how it will lock access to the forbidden sites? After all from it there will be a demand, the contract that it concludes. As I understood - owners of the companion are not providers - they simply give the channel. Sell all successively - can use though for the Internet though for what want. Here trace: 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms registerlafonera.fon.com [192.168.10.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 675 ms 678 ms 678 ms 10.130.130.213 4 693 ms 678 ms 679 ms 10.130.130.250 5 671 ms 678 ms * 10.130.130.162 6 686 ms 677 ms 677 ms 88-202-127-73.ip.skylogicnet.com [88.202.127.73 7 679 ms 668 ms 678 ms 10.130.138.105 8 836 ms 718 ms 727 ms 10.130.2.42 9 693 ms 709 ms 717 ms 10.130.2.50 10 684 ms 718 ms 727 ms 176.241.107.194 11 727 ms 708 ms 717 ms 176.241.107.193 12 743 ms 747 ms 727 ms ae22-771.s31. kiev.datagroup.ua [80.91.160.149 13 726 ms 717 ms 718 ms google.ua-kiev.datagroup.ua [80.91.170.138 14 1151 ms 848 ms 746 ms 108.170.248.146 15 751 ms 771 ms 746 ms 216.239.46.121 16 737 ms 718 ms 719 ms 216.239.58.18 17 892 ms 758 ms 758 ms 216.239.50.187 18 724 ms * 728 ms 72.14.238.54 19 788 ms 1397 ms 798 ms 108.170.245.1 20 752 ms 757 ms 758 ms 66.249.94.105 21 753 ms 768 ms 787 ms par21s03-in-f142.1e100.net [216.58.213.142] I.e. it does not turn out so simply...

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As I understood - owners of the companion are not providers - they simply give the channel. Sell all successively - can use though for the Internet though for what want. Well in general, skydns took care of thrusting the end of the satellite channel in the Internet. And on ideas of the Kiev leaders it, I suppose, to spit. Who in this construction posesses the companion, I have no concept. You asked a question, I answered, as could. I do not see special sense the theory to plant.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> At me approximately at the same price, too the double-sided channel. But in Ukraine it is provided with the Ukrainian provider. Another simply has no right to work. The companion only the bridge between me and the provider. In what then sense of the companion?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the Confectioner understands that its chances to remain are in power insignificant. And as understands that as soon as loses the power - chances to appear on  with confiscation are great. On it already checks mood of the people on martial law introduction. It seems to me, with all he agrees. Also will be then as Kuchma - to give sometimes interview about that as lifted the country. Well or as Jatsenjuk - falls down in the warm countries and about it forget a year or two from now.

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Hello, Trotsky, you wrote: S>> At me approximately at the same price, too the double-sided channel. But in Ukraine it is provided with the Ukrainian provider. Another simply has no right to work. The companion only the bridge between me and the provider. In what then sense of the companion? It is the same radio channel between you and the provider. Owners of the companion sell not the Internet and the channel. And already as this channel - a problem bought will be used.

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Tell thanks its developers. There is an implementation from Bergensky group for Linux