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Topic: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> https://ukranews.com/news/550225-nefteg … a-463-mlrd the GARDEN> Next  Peremoga is to receive real money.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

GARDEN> Next  About  - while yes. And here the next?! 1. The arbitration refused to Ukraine right to lift the rate for transit unilaterally. It is expected therefore small plus. 2. The arbitration calculated to Gazprom money for "not selected transit". It is the big minus. Whether Gazprom will fulfill the arbitration decision. Will be. But will go at first to the appeal. So here I would look by results of the appeal. Taking into account nuance - it is not sounded yet - whether there is a fine for decision violation. I think - is not present, differently Naftogaz about it would tell. (And as next !) And for calculated Naftogazu of a money in favor of Gazprom the fine is and every day the debt increases. So we wait for the appeal and its results

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> 2. The arbitration calculated to Gazprom money for "not selected transit". It is the big minus. "Not selected transit" is an underside of contracts "take or pay", and the similar decision, in the long term, at all in interests 404, as debts for not gathered additionally gas at it much more.

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Ops> "not selected transit" is an underside of contracts "take or pay", and the similar decision, in the long term, at all in interests 404, as debts for not gathered additionally gas at it much more. And in it and Gazprom claim that in dispute on gas the Stockholm arbitration in a question take-or-pay removed this requirement (the decision is already accepted), and in the given decision on the contrary recognized its competency.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, Ops, you wrote: S>> 2. The arbitration calculated to Gazprom money for "not selected transit". It is the big minus. Ops> "not selected transit" is an underside of contracts "take or pay", and the similar decision, in the long term, at all in interests 404, as debts for not gathered additionally gas at it much more. Like while is not present. The arbitration obliged Russian "Gazprom" to pay to it of 4,6 billion dollars for gas short shipment under the contract on transit. Taking into account the December decision on other dispute, on which "Naftogaz" owe to the Russian company of two billion dollars, "Gazprom" owes to the Ukrainian side of 2,56 billion.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, Ops, you wrote: S>> 2. The arbitration calculated to Gazprom money for "not selected transit". It is the big minus. Ops> "not selected transit" is an underside of contracts "take or pay", and the similar decision, in the long term, at all in interests 404, as debts for not gathered additionally gas at it much more. It is interesting that under the contract Gazprom was not fined for gas short shipment. From here - what generally sense contracts if the arbitrator can ignore points of the contract have a question or enter the new?

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN>>> https://ukranews.com/news/550225-nefteg … a-463-mlrd the GARDEN>>> Next > Peremoga is to receive real money. The GARDEN> Can arrest property  in other countries. Ukraine should so many that it is possible to arrest her entirely. And if Pu had eggs is for a long time would happen, as Ukraine declared a default.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> Can arrest property  in other countries. And the Russian Federation here at what?  - the commercial company.

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N> From here - what generally sense contracts if the arbitrator can ignore points of the contract have a question or enter the new? From the moment of origin of point of the contract: all disputes it is considered in Stockholm on the basis of the Swedish right - yes... It was necessary to write: in Basmanom court on the basis of the right of the Russian Federation.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> https://ukranews.com/news/550225-nefteg … a-463-mlrd the GARDEN> Next  Wait next . It on the way. In the contract between "Gazprom" and "Naftagazom" which Ukrainians also published, there are penalties for  no specified volumes. Court not in the right to assign the price and to finish thinking about points in the contract operating. Transit provided volumes it is desirable, but . On that there was the free will of Naftogaza and its signature. A point. He/she is a whale of jurisprudence - contract freedom!  - not the child, was not drunk and intentionally decided not to install point on punishment in case of omission of norms of transit! It in jurisprudence is called  violation Court had not the right to add the contract. In its right was to compare clauses to actions only. And ALL. The court had no right to add the contract. I.e., the Stockholm court exceeded the competence and powers (by the way not for the first time). Here

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, Bjorn Skalpe, you wrote: BS> it was necessary to write: in Basmanom court on the basis of the right of the Russian Federation. All to it goes... And that what sense in the contract if substantive provisions are backdating reconsidered.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> https://ukranews.com/news/550225-nefteg … a-463-mlrd the GARDEN> Next  But Sansary Genotby wheel is relentless...

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, MasterZiv, you wrote: the GARDEN>> Can arrest property  in other countries. MZ> and the Russian Federation here at what?  - the commercial company. And and here other countries?

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Arbitrators argued for the decision sharp impairment of a state of the Ukrainian economy. Here it, knock from below. Even Basmanny Court more made.

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> Again   Not, here  tried.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, alexku, you wrote: A> Wait next . It on the way. If I confuse nothing,  is not court,  there cannot be, its decision is final and  in advance with it agreed.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> to spite of mum I will freeze ears? In accuracy as  with  on delivery  to an aggressor.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

The GARDEN> transit too will not be? Will be. The GARDEN> that is an europas without gas remains? Does not remain. The GARDEN> well it is excellent. It will be good if they find other sources, and you  without clients. Aha, for example,  I of Yamal the GARDEN> to spite of mum will freeze ears? Already freeze: "" asks Ukrainians to reduce temperature in locations by 1-2 degrees, In Ukraine closed all educational institutions Sources Ukrainian, if that.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> Next  Yes something  smells slightly. We wait

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> Already freeze: "" asks Ukrainians to reduce temperature in locations by 1-2 degrees, In Ukraine closed all educational institutions As so? After all two years Ukraine does not buy gas from an aggressor.

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

DO>> Already freeze: "" asks Ukrainians to reduce temperature in locations by 1-2 degrees, In Ukraine closed all educational institutions A> As so? After all two years Ukraine does not buy gas from an aggressor. The keyword "does not buy"

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Re: Re: "Petrogas" benefited in Stockholm court against "Gazprom" on $4,63

Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN> transit too will not be? The GARDEN> that is an europas without gas remains? And northern flow where gets to? Those who in Europe something mean, receive hectare on it. The GARDEN> well it is excellent. It will be good if they find other sources, and you  without clients. American  I will buy? Well-well! The GARDEN> to spite of mum I will freeze ears?