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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: B>> On a court yard 2018 and to learn variable type, not so mandatory to run in declaration point. TB> and the code more and more it begins impossible to perceive without special multiton ? That the code could be perceived without special multiton , it should be written in a programming language which is designed so that to save good  without . Java, C# such languages are not, alas. Many visual garbage, ghost effects, ambiguities. However, these are the majority of the modern languages, .

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Hello, AlexRK, you wrote: ARK> That the code could be perceived without special multiton , it should be written in a programming language which is designed so that to save good  without . And what languages then provide it? What for this purpose it is necessary? Type to declare explicitly everything, what is possible?

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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: ARK>> That the code could be perceived without special multiton , it should be written in a programming language which is designed so that to save good  without . TB> And what languages then provide it?  I do not know. It is necessary to think. Any simple, type Pascal or  TB> That for this purpose is necessary? Type to declare explicitly everything, what is possible? I think that the most important thing - each separate code line should have lower dependence on a context. We look in one place and it is visible all necessary. For example, it is not necessary to climb somewhere upwards to understand that we are in the comment. Plus there should be a little a visual garbage on square centimeter of the code (it does not mean small length of keywords, and their small amount). These purposes in any sense are opposite, therefore to create good readable language, and thus not primitive, very difficultly.

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Hello, AlexRK, you wrote: ARK> Plus there should be a little a visual garbage on square centimeter of the code (it does not mean small length of keywords, and their small amount). These purposes in any sense are opposite, therefore to create good readable language, and thus not primitive, very difficultly. Here too it is not so clear. Now in languages there are three types , in crosses already 4. But if all types  to replace on 1 just readership decreases. The minimalism of syntactic constructions transforms the code into uniform porridge. And number of keywords it there is more it is good more likely.

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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> Now in languages there are three types , in crosses already 4. But if all types  to replace on 1 just readership decreases. It is impossible to take and change simply , without recomprehension of all remaining. Certainly, in that case anything good does not quit. TB> the minimalism of syntactic constructions transforms the code into uniform porridge. Yes, therefore the minimalism, and balance is necessary not. The balance is much more difficult than minimalism. TB> and number of keywords it there is more it is good more likely. It is a lot of keywords it is unambiguously bad. Mahlo of keywords - too it is unambiguously bad.

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Hello, Artem Korneev, you wrote: AK> From now on it is possible to use: AK> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/ … 00247.html AK> Java 10 would pass in a stage "General availability" Still dynamic added

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Hello, kov_serg, you wrote: vsb>> And in what hammered with Java 9? Units? There like all problems dare arguments at start Java even if they arise. _> and c what keys to start up on 32 axes? What relation has Java 9 to 32 axes? Download JVM for 32 axes and launch on health. Is such in the wild nature. That from one JVM (Oracles HotSpot) threw out support, is not  compatibility of language as that. Windows 95 too at some instant threw out.

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TB> Now in languages there are three types , in crosses already 4 In java too 4.

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Hello, vsb, you vsb> Well if the such will work, it absolutely abruptly. Such I while anywhere did not see, like in common lisp was, but precisely is not assured. In  it works.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> And if it is more than enclosure, yes with any castes it will be already strong worse. Autocompletion in case of unknown properties too cannot work, and add get I pound a little. Then it is necessary to select it in library. Something of type json.get ("/some/property [5]/path").asList ()

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Hello, kov_serg, you wrote: _> Hello, Artem Korneev, you wrote: AK>> From now on it is possible to use: AK>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/ … 00247.html AK>> Java 10 passed in a stage "General availability" _> And who in senses, will use it if by September it becomes already outdated? LTS will be Java 11 And than OpenJDK 11 version will differ from OpenJDK10? Or you will pay for lts ?

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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> And the code more and more it begins impossible to perceive without special multiton ? With the code for a long time already it is impossible to work without a normal development environment. Any a little serious project implies ten and hundred thousand code lines which without good tools it is impossible neither to write, nor to analyze. The short period when the program already was readable from the screen, but still small and played back on a paper, was historical anomaly about which it is time to forget.

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And in Pascal var was from the very beginning

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