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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> If priests wanted, that them understood, for a long time would conduct divine service in the modern Russian. A> in the Spanish churches too serve in Latin though hinders nothing to speak Spanish. A> and yes, Spanish too a linear descendant of the Latin. It is called tradition. Church ceremonies one of the most old-fashioned and  the culture phenomena. Icons write till now on the Byzantian canons though the art thought promoted since then far forward, at least in the technical plan. But here so all is accepted also here. I do not see in it anything bad. In another's monastery, as they say...

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Hello, ZevS, you wrote: A>> If priests wanted, that them understood, for a long time would conduct divine service in the modern Russian. A>> in the Spanish churches too serve in Latin though hinders nothing to speak Spanish. A>> and yes, Spanish too a linear descendant of the Latin. ZS> it is called tradition. Church ceremonies one of the most old-fashioned and  the culture phenomena. Icons write till now on the Byzantian canons though the art thought promoted since then far forward, at least in the technical plan. But here so all is accepted also here. I do not see in it anything bad. In another's monastery, as they say... And I do not see anything bad. I simply say that "divine " it is important. From the religious point of view, certainly.

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Hello, V. Zudin, you wrote: SVZ> Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF>> Why now the majority of Russian does not understand or badly understands Church Slavonic language on which there is a divine service in Russian Orthodox Church? After all this language  to Russian! SVZ> it is closer to East European slavic - to an Ukrainian, Croatian... Instead of to the modern Russian. RF>> in what the reason of it? SVZ> become outdated. It is not necessary. Perhaps, therefore Russian do not understand remaining slavic languages?

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> I simply say that "divine " it is important. But it does not answer a question why serve on old slavic. For  it would be better, if it was clear. Is not present?

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Hello, BOBKA_XPEH, you wrote: BOB> And why not a speech?  a speech to be useful on caches to sit... You have not enough "Policy"? Well here I know a speech. In due time I on it read books, which in Russian could not find. On this base me again in  you will write down? And here without Georgian - anywhere. I hardly above about it wrote.

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Hello, Privalov, you wrote: P> And here without Georgian - anywhere. Nonsense...

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> The more foreign languages the person - the better knows! It is all not free of charge. More foreign languages will be for the account of physics, mathematics, astronomy. I understand that to you as to the believer it is not important. But to us it is important. PS. Americans of languages do not learn. It is not necessary to them.

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C> than introduction of the second I is justified I can not understand. A substantiation idle time: - English is necessary - is necessary Chinese that's all.

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: the C> the Second foreign language here helps that English at all did not become exclusive. Generally it dares the choice, what language to study, learn two for this purpose absolutely not mandatory. It and worked, always there were those who selected other language, and once generally German was where more popularly English.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: a C>> the last 25 years in reforms of formation of logic any, S> That is, magnification of number of students of high schools three times and Unified State Examination introduction - is too difficult for your understanding? And what exactly you want to tell it? Whether there is a necessity for such amount of people with higher education? Unambiguously is not present! What gave this magnification of an amount of students? The full devaluation of higher education! Unified State Examination in itself it is finite very good idea, but implementation as always limps.

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Hello, Ejnstok Fajr, you wrote: a C>> than introduction of the second I is justified I can not understand. > the Substantiation idle time: > - English > is necessary - is necessary Chinese > that's all. Statistics shows that 70 % of the population of the Russian Federation even one of these languages are not necessary, not to mention the second.

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Hello, Cicero, you wrote: a C>>> the last 25 years in reforms of formation of logic any, S>> That is, magnification of number of students of high schools three times and Unified State Examination introduction - is too difficult for your understanding? Whether the C> Is necessity for such amount of people with higher education? The C> Unambiguously is not present! As well as with an average. People without you understand that is necessary for them, and with the necessity itself understand! A C> That gave this magnification of an amount of students? For example, psychologists. In their scoop practically was not. A C> the Full devaluation of higher education! To become crazy! And what high school prepares managers worse ? A C> Unified State Examination in itself it is finite very good idea, but implementation as always limps. With present implementation it became already much better, than was without Unified State Examination.

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> Why now the majority of Russian does not understand or badly understands Church Slavonic language on which there is a divine service in Russian Orthodox Church? After all this language  to Russian! Russian - the distorted language of glades (they are Slavs such).

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: a C>>>> the last 25 years in reforms of formation of logic any, S>>> That is, magnification of number of students of high schools three times and Unified State Examination introduction - is too difficult for your understanding? Whether the C>> Is necessity for such amount of people with higher education? The C>> Unambiguously is not present! S> As well as with an average. People without you understand that is necessary for them, and with the necessity itself understand! You to me about logic here should to justify as that. And you rolled down to the person. Rolled down to the person - merged! A C>> That gave this magnification of an amount of students? S> for example, psychologists. In their scoop practically was not. I suspect that there was no in them a need, however I and now their presence do not see. A C>> the Full devaluation of higher education! S> to become crazy! And what high school prepares managers worse ? And they generally are necessary in such amount, these, as them there... Managers? C>> Unified State Examination in itself it is finite very good idea, but implementation as always limps. S> with present implementation it became already much better, than was without Unified State Examination. I also tell - idea good (as communism!).

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RF> Why now the majority of Russian does not understand or badly understands Church Slavonic language on which there is a divine service in Russian Orthodox Church? After all this language  to Russian! Distant enough relative, Church Slavonic language it as a matter of fact , i.e. South slavic, and Russian - East slavic. RF> in it only there are more than times (four past instead of one in Russian), a bit different declination of pronouns plus some tens words and expressions which are necessary for learning. And all! Not only. A phonetic system another.

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Hello, Cicero, you wrote: a C>>>>> the last 25 years in reforms of formation of logic any, S>>>> That is, magnification of number of students of high schools three times and Unified State Examination introduction - is too difficult for your understanding? Whether the C>>> Is necessity for such amount of people with higher education? The C>>> Unambiguously is not present! S>> As well as with an average. People without you understand that is necessary for them, and with the necessity itself understand!> You to me about logic here should to justify a C as that. Selected read! Also learn about classical education! What means - necessity? Ten thousand years lived even without writing. A C>>> the Full devaluation of higher education! S>> to become crazy! And what high school prepares managers worse ? Cs> And they generally are necessary in such amount, these, as them there... Managers? A C> Image: d0b4d0b5d0bbd0b5d0b3d0b8d180d183d0b9.jpg formation Devaluation is an amount? Then cancel schools!

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: whether the C>>>> Is necessity for such amount of people with higher education? The C>>>> Unambiguously is not present! S>>> As well as with an average. People without you understand that is necessary for them, and with the necessity itself understand!>> You to me about logic here should to justify a C as that. S> selected read! Also learn about classical education! You can simply directly will tell that want to tell? What means - necessity? Ten thousand years lived even without writing. It would be possible to tell about that that necessity for such amount of people with higher education if the majority getting education would work then in the selected direction. Instead of there would be with the diploma of the manager cellular communication salons in managers on sales. S> formation devaluation is an amount? Then cancel schools! Formation devaluation - means lowering of its value. There is it two ways: 1. The today's graduate possesses level of knowledge more low than the graduate of the same high school 70-80 years. 2. Possessing diplomas about higher education now it is much more people, than was then (because it became easier for receiving).

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Hello, Cicero, you wrote: whether the C>>>>> Is necessity for such amount of people with higher education? The C>>>>> Unambiguously is not present! S>>>> As well as with an average. People without you understand that is necessary for them, and with the necessity itself understand!>>> You to me about logic here should to justify a C as that. S>> selected read! Also learn about classical education! The C> Can you simply directly will tell that want to tell? Yes, I will tell, times you are not able to read. Classical education does not give a speciality. And people - not cattle. That is why study not only for the sake of a bread piece. Cs> Instead of would go with the diploma of the manager cellular communication salons in managers on sales. And these sellers are obliged to remain with five classes of school, time remaining in operation is not required to them? And the shop is as the serfdom? It is impossible to leave? S>> formation Devaluation is an amount? Then cancel schools! A C> formation Devaluation - means lowering of its value. The C> Happens it two ways: a C> 1. The today's graduate possesses level of knowledge more low than the graduate of the same high school 70-80 years. A C lie> 2. Possessing diplomas about higher education now it is much more people, than was then (because it became easier for receiving). And people, able to read, became more than 200 years ago. For the same reason. You suggest schools to close?

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> Perhaps, therefore Russian do not understand remaining slavic languages? We very not bad understand an Ukrainian. In what necessity  other slavic languages? For Russian living other slavic countries or that who for what other reason needs communicate in other slavic languages likely can learns to do it easily enough... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, ZevS, you wrote: ZS> Is not present? No.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Cicero, you wrote: the C> shows Statistican that 70 % of the population of the Russian Federation even one of these languages are not necessary, not to mention the second. So not only statistics, but also vital practice.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: the C>> the Second foreign language here helps that English at all did not become exclusive. Ops> Generally it dares the choice, what language to study, learn two for this purpose absolutely not mandatory. It and worked, always there were those who selected other language, and once generally German was where more popularly English. Aha, and then that who faced English in University after German it was absolutely bad.

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: a C> Aha, and then that who faced English in University after German it was absolutely bad. Yes, if English beer to hinder with German it will be bad. And not only in University. And in University language continued to learn the same, as in the school certificate.

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Hello, ZevS, you wrote: ZS> Well here for example article about that what for to learn languages with links to researches - http://www.psychologies.ru/self-knowled … ih-faktov/ the British scientists?

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: the C>> Can you simply directly will tell that want to tell? S> yes, I will tell, times you are not able to read. Classical education does not give a speciality. And people - not cattle. That is why study not only for the sake of a bread piece. When speech about higher education the majority if not all receive it in hope to have a speciality for the sake of a bread piece. So considers the majority of the interrogated! But how it proves logicality of reforms of the last years? Cs>> Instead of would go with the diploma of the manager cellular communication salons in managers on sales. S> and these sellers are obliged to remain with five classes of school, time remaining in operation is not required to them? And the shop is as the serfdom? It is impossible to leave? Actually they went into higher education for operation in other area, but such experts as they too much that the part should go in sellers (for example). And it is enough for operation by the seller and Sredne-special, and even at all an average. It is possible to leave. And sense? S>>> formation devaluation is an amount? Then cancel schools! A C>> formation Devaluation - means lowering of its value. The C>> Happens it two ways: a C>> 1. The today's graduate possesses level of knowledge more low than the graduate of the same high school 70-80 years. S> the lie Is not present! Truth: a C>> 2. Possessing diplomas about higher education now it is much more people, than was then (because it became easier for receiving). S> And people, able to read, became more than 200 years ago. For the same reason. You suggest schools to close? There is I no school do not suggest to close. Schools need to be opened on the contrary that all children in one change could study. I suggest to raise preparation level in HIGH SCHOOLS. And here an amount of students (graduates) to restrict. Though if to toughen reception procedure (not in cost, and knowledge of the entrant), and requirements to students (level of knowledge), an amount it decreases. It is less better, yes it is better!