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Topic: Bug in system of sale of second-hand cars

All greetings. About such problem somehow anywhere did not read, but actually at registration of the second-hand car, the new master not always can fulfill all requirements. After purchase of the car the new proprietor has 10 days on its registration. But it is necessary to register policy  (not clearly what for, the machine can will stand in a museum). To receive  it is necessary to transit checkup. And to transit checkup the machine it should be completely serviceable, and there it is strong enough . With not burning  it you will not transit. And all should to have time be made it for 10 days. It is clear that checkup all simply buy, and nobody notes problems. But 10 days it not so are a lot of on machine repair, especially if during this moment the master can be occupied.

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Re: Bug in system of sale of second-hand cars

Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> After purchase of the car the new proprietor has 10 days on its registration. So it likely time when without documents it is possible to go? If it is broken - that in service/garage can be as much as necessary long without design, another matter that all documents for relocation on roads further are required and probably it is necessary to transport on the wrecker to a checkup/statement place on the registration that the law not to break. Here the bug is faster that generally grant the right to go by probably unworkable car. Should be so - THAT came to an end and in time did not transit - carry on the wrecker.

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the first () 1 to disassemble the machine 2 to buy as spare parts () 3 to collect the machine 4 to repair 5 to insure and deliver on the registration  the second There the penalty of 2000 roubles is provided, it is possible to put it in the price.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> But it is necessary to register policy  (not clearly what for, the machine can will stand in a museum). If in a museum and it is not necessary to register. A> And to transit checkup the machine it should be completely serviceable, and there it is strong enough . With not burning  it you will not transit. Yes it is fine, even nobody looks at the machine in most cases. A> it is clear that checkup all simply buy, and nobody notes problems. But 10 days it not so are a lot of on machine repair, especially if during this moment the master can be occupied. So if it is broken, you and will not go by it. Registration is necessary for driving on public roads.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> And all it should to have time be made for 10 days. No. You can go 10 days without the policy. If brakes , you show it the copy  and you say that you go to the insurance.

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Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H> Hello, alzt, you wrote: A>> And all it should to have time be made for 10 days. H> is not present. You can go 10 days without the policy. If brakes , you show it the copy  and you say that you go to the insurance. Some on  go months: simply write new

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Hello, MegaMozg, you wrote: MM> Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H>> Hello, alzt, you wrote: A>>> And all it should to have time be made for 10 days. H>> is not present. You can go 10 days without the policy. If brakes , you show it the copy  and you say that you go to the insurance. MM> some on  go months: simply write new  the former proprietor in 10 days comes in  and writes application on search for penalties on it still fall and tax is rude. And after that the machine on the registration you will not deliver or basically, or with huge haemorum.

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Re: Bug in system of sale of second-hand cars

Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H> Hello, alzt, you wrote: A>> And all it should to have time be made for 10 days. H> is not present. You can go 10 days without the policy. If brakes , you show it the copy  and you say that you go to the insurance. No. 10 days are given on setting on the registration in traffic police, well and it is possible to go 10 days too, but it is a bonus. And the most important thing begins later when it will be necessary to deliver on the registration the car after 10 days then it is necessary to pay the penalty to 2000 rbl.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> it is clear that checkup all simply buy, and nobody notes problems. But 10 days it not so are a lot of on machine repair, especially if during this moment the master can be occupied. How there in 2003? About this problem for a long time spoke, but all . I here do not remember cancelled  at registration or not... You for Putin voted? How many years transited? 15? Here for 15 years he  could not solve this problem.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> and there it is strong enough .

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> After purchase of the car the new proprietor has 10 days on its registration. A> but it is necessary to register policy  (not clearly what for, the machine can will stand in a museum). Well it is probable behind the same, what for visiting of the gynecologist is required from aunts at medical help obtaining on the rights. A> to receive  it is necessary to transit checkup. It is possible to demand from the seller presence of operating checkup. Fortunately, checkup does not burn down, when the machine changes the owner.

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Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H> Is not present. You can go 10 days without the policy. If brakes , you show it the copy  and you say that you go to the insurance. And I correctly understand, what if for these 10 days will become the originator of failure completely for it you will answer?

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> And I correctly understand, what if for these 10 days will become the originator of failure completely for it you will answer? So.

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Hello, mike_rs, you wrote: _> the former proprietor in 10 days comes in  and writes application on search for penalties on it still fall and tax is rude. And after that the machine on the registration you will not deliver or basically, or with huge haemorum. I put the similar machine on the registration While the machine wandered on "salons" probably  penalties to the previous owner then he wrote application any there. In search numbers leave. At me old in  simply selected, and I paid in addition the state duty on new state number.

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Hello, hardcase, you wrote: Pzz>> And I correctly understand, what if for these 10 days will become the originator of failure completely for it you will answer? H> so. And if on the contrary, not you are guilty? At compilation of the protocol cops ask  from all participants, and not just at the originator. Correctly I understand, what if you are not guilty, but  at you are not present, you will have difficulties with compensating obtaining?

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A> All greetings. About such problem somehow anywhere did not read, but actually at registration of the second-hand car, the new master not always can fulfill all requirements. Instead of it is necessary to overturn all upside down. You have a possibility of 10 days to go without registration. But to go, the car should be serviceable that proves to be true checkup. Can buy and not register at all - your right, or to deliver on the registration in a year, after repair. But till this time to go by it on public roads it will be forbidden. To transport the wrecker the property forbids nobody.

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Hello, hardcase, you wrote: _>> the former proprietor in 10 days comes in  and writes application on search for penalties on it still fall and tax is rude. And after that the machine on the registration you will not deliver or basically, or with huge haemorum. H> I put the similar machine on the registration While the machine wandered on "salons" probably  penalties to the previous owner then he wrote application any there. H> in search numbers leave. At me old in  simply selected, and I paid in addition the state duty on new state number. Yes, it is much more interesting, when while you go for a drive on , the old owner does not pay penalties and generally a radish the Brother-in-law half a year on courts ran - too at once did not make out on itself, wanted for to resell. And when went at last to traffic police, here and realized the size of a problem. But as small and traffic police-nikov he all knows small town, these butting half a year through courts it and went by the same machine.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Correctly I understand, what if you are not guilty, but  at you are not present, you will have difficulties with compensating obtaining? I do not see the reason why absence of the policy at the side, recognized innocent in road accident, should hinder with compensating obtaining. Here if the bicyclist on road to offend - it will have a just cause to reimburse   (and if it is absolutely bad) including at the expense of insurance the originator. Another matter that on life insurance policies in every way try to sell, and on insurance  to be pressed.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: A>> After purchase of the car the new proprietor has 10 days on its registration. A>> but it is necessary to register policy  (not clearly what for, the machine can will stand in a museum). Pzz> Well it is probable behind the same, what for visiting of the gynecologist is required from aunts at medical help obtaining on the rights. Medical help is a separate subject, somehow I will create also it. Pzz> it is possible to demand from the seller presence of operating checkup. Fortunately, checkup does not burn down, when the machine changes the owner. It is possible. But I do not see anything bad in purchase of the broken machine. My right. Only it turns out that is normal and under the law  it it will be difficult.

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Hello, namespace, you wrote: N> Can buy and not register at all - your right, or to deliver on the registration in a year, after repair. N> but till this time to go by it on public roads it will be forbidden. N> to transport the wrecker the property forbids nobody. It. In  demand policy . I can result the machine on the wrecker but how to receive a diagnostic card for ?

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: Pzz>> Well it is probable behind the same, what for visiting of the gynecologist is required from aunts at medical help obtaining on the rights. A> medical help is a separate subject, somehow I will create also it. Basically, registration-registration, and OSAGO-OSAGOj. I suppose, our creative legislators mixed them among themselves to force owners to acquire  though in certain cases. Analogy to medical help here quite direct. Ministry of Health wants, that women regularly looked round at the gynecologist, and women shirk. Here, invented a method though in any cases them to force. Too the creative approach. Pzz>> it is possible to demand from the seller presence of operating checkup. Fortunately, checkup does not burn down, when the machine changes the owner. A> it is possible. But I do not see anything bad in purchase of the broken machine. My right. Only it turns out that is normal and under the law  it it will be difficult. Strictly speaking, if to you "carried" to break the machine shortly before the termination of action of checkup, and repair was long, you do not have other lawful method to prolong checkup, except how to bring the machine on it on the wrecker. And without any purchase and sale. I.e., a bug here in checkup system, instead of in system to sale of cars

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Hello, alzt, A> It. In  demand policy . I can result the machine on the wrecker but how to receive a diagnostic card for ? To bring the machine on point  on the wrecker?

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V_S> to Bring the machine on point  on the wrecker?! Even if the car is completely serviceable, while it is not proved by checkup, it is impossible to go. Necessary, but not a sufficient condition. Further on the wrecker behind the insurance and in  behind registration.

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Hello, Vlad_SP, you wrote: A>> It. In  demand policy . I can result the machine on the wrecker but how to receive a diagnostic card for ? V_S> to Bring the machine on point  on the wrecker? What for? The machine is not serviceable.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> What for? The machine is not serviceable. To bring when it will be serviceable. And what for to put on the registration the unworkable machine? It is impossible To go all the same.