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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Thus, what declared support swift? The pleasure V> a little on the contrary Will be insignificant - there will be a possibility simply   programs. Whether with ios that?

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Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: V>> It GUI-frejmvork for Dart. S> Well it is necessary where that Dart to push. I too paid attention.)) S> would develop.Net Core, Xaml Standard is better as it does Samsung in Tizen to Google from it not better, it seriously gathered for a desktop, to a campaign.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: V>> Will be a little on the contrary - there will be a possibility simply   programs. Whether > with ios that? So, the majority of popular programs under Androidom have the version and for iOS.

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Hello, neFormal, you wrote: F> the droid got on actually empty market of budgetary smart phones. F> competitors could not make a platform. Competitors made  Bada, which now  in Tizen. But so yes, for the purposes quickly to rivet   approaches better. And now it is necessary to go down and cover slowly  all herd... All road measuring energy consumption thus.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> So, the majority of popular programs under Androidom have the version and for iOS. Normally they are written by different commands

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: V>>> It GUI-frejmvork for Dart. S>> Well it is necessary where that Dart to push. V> I too paid attention.)) S>> would develop.Net Core, Xaml Standard is better as it does Samsung in Tizen V> to Google from it not better, it seriously gathered for a desktop, to a campaign. So Xaml Standard and Xamarin. Forms it just about a desktop. https://github.com/xamarin/Xamarin.Form … re-Roadmap https://github.com/Microsoft/xaml-standard and here WPF in comparison with  Guem much more is more interesting than orders.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: F>> the droid got on actually empty market of budgetary smart phones. F>> competitors could not make a platform. V> competitors made  Bada, which now  in Tizen. Made strongly later. Before it  with everyones meego, etc. axes.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Hello, neFormal, you wrote: F>> the droid got on actually empty market of budgetary smart phones. F>> competitors could not make a platform. V> competitors made  Bada, which now  in Tizen. V> But so yes, for purposes quickly to rivet   approaches better. V> and now it is necessary to go down and cover slowly  all herd... V> All road measuring energy consumption thus. Approaches.Net Core b Xamarin is better. Forms https://blog.xamarin.com/add-tizen-proj … orms-apps/ Apropos , the same.Net Native. MS that the correct way goes.

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Hello, Berserk, you wrote: making profit? The profit receives Google from advertizing and from information collection so almost any visited service for them is potentially profitable.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> - all source codes are opened: https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/; I Recommend them to esteem, without tears to look there simply it is impossible. Upon, it is a small command sits and saws the OS on money from profitable subdividings. The real favor hardly is less, than from other 100500 amateur OS.

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Hello, serj.e, you wrote: SE> In macOS/iOS very long time ago there lives a C ++ in a kernel "Very long time ago" is in  kernels (at least, from the end 90).

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> Aha, aha. And consequently on the smart phone it is impossible to deliver the axis. Yes it is fine: at me on the first smart phone of HTC HD7 it was possible, if I am not mistaken, to stitch instead of WP7 . There is a heap  insertions of the same  so to deliver the OS a problem never. Simply to make normal OS, with normal support of existing applications or enough of the, the majority of the companies do not pull. The same did not pull the MSEC (though can there will be one more approach, it would be desirable to trust).

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Competitors made  Bada, which now  in Tizen. V> But so yes, for purposes quickly to rivet   approaches better. V> and now it is necessary to go down and cover slowly  all herd... V> All road measuring energy consumption thus. And to whom it is necessary? Here directly  Tizen prospers, or  BlackBerry last (forgot as is called) - too blossoms and smells. The market, as though shows that on lifetime of the smart phone to the majority is deep all the same. And the registration of that Tizen Net Core it as a result was necessary to adapt it is obvious not only  to analysts like me. (BTW. The C ++ API Tizena was frank  **** m as well as  - I tried to develop on it, yes, though and on enough early version)

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: V>> So, the majority of popular programs under Androidom have the version and for iOS. > normally they are written by different commands And what difference what of commands will be  ready raws on Swift under other AXIS?

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Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S> And here WPF in comparison with  Guem much more is more interesting than orders. We already with you considered differences declarative  from reactive, not? The sense to repeat? For is strong-dynamical things it is convenient reactive , for more or less static - declarative. And I of problems if it is fair, do not see. Declarative  is always a certain format of the description + "", a translating certain declarative format in terminology dynamic (anyway) a scene constructed by "engine" over a certain graphic engine. You think, it will be difficult will fasten on top Flutter parcer of a format of language of the description of compositions  XAML?))

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Hello, neFormal, you wrote: V>> Competitors made  Bada, which now  in Tizen. F> made strongly later. 2010 year - not strongly and late, . F> before it  with everyones meego, etc. axes. eego has been personally crushed by Elopom which has come from MS in Nokia, for what to it wrote out not sickly award. Though, Nokiju N9 were in time,  to let out. Unlike  competitors this device did not become outdated years 5 if it is no more because did not brake. On now operating time from eego moved to the same Tizen.

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Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S> approaches.Net Core b Xamarin Is better. Forms Who about what, and bare about a bath.

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: the C> Upon, is a small command sits and saws the OS on money from profitable subdividings. With Androidom the first years 5 was as - it was tightly unprofitable, and? It is obvious that Google in a state to afford long-time investments...

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Hello, Somescout, you wrote: V>> All road measuring energy consumption thus. S> and to whom it is necessary? Here directly  Tizen prospers Tizen sits over the natural monster - kernels Linux. A kernel this package, despite all  extensions. Ideology juniks-blowing, when any  is a file - it poor on-essence. I.e. it is "powerful" abstraction for the little fool-programmer, , but pours out  in  interlayers/adapters and heaps of superfluous synchronization/alarm systems. For the Fuchsia free has initially been selected superficial  a kernel, from all these  prejudices. S> and the registration of that Tizen Net Core it as a result was necessary to adapt it is obvious not only  to analysts like me. Why it "was necessary"? This adaptation is fulfilled by forces Net Core team and who it forbids to adapt the development under what it takes in head? How it can  itself Tizen, except that moment, what at available adaptation under "is simple Linux" it turned out rather simply  and to Tizen? S> (BTW. The C ++ API Tizena was frank  **** m as well as  - I tried to develop on it, yes though and on enough early version) I tried for Bada, agree. Any not With ++, and the Turbo-paskal, with double initialization, absence of exceptions and generally all buns. But it a little  as on me,  atop "system " it is possible to wind modern With ++ 17   and will be to you happiness.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> And what difference what of commands will be  ready raws on Swift under other AXIS? Well the command which should do it) knows swift knows other axis

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Tizen sits over the natural monster - kernels Linux. V> the Kernel this package, despite all  extensions. I not absolutely about that: counter Tizen just also was that it nativno-fast. Did not fly up, for it is not enough of it. Moreover, at me WP10 on enough ancient Lumia and speed/operating time as a whole suits me (and it thus that I did not change the battery from the moment of purchase - it already fully sat down). V> ideology juniks-blowing, when any  is a file - it poor on-essence. V> I.e. it is "powerful" abstraction for the little fool-programmer, , but pours out  in  interlayers/adapters and heaps of superfluous synchronization/alarm systems. On the one hand I will agree is looks very strange,  that only the few  (that now that earlier) receive though any advantage from representation in quality  a file. But... In Windows similar system, even more scale: All objects of system from the point of view of safety are processed by one system manager and possess the uniform rights . And it is healthy. V> for the Fuchsia free has initially been selected superficial  a kernel, from all these  prejudices. Well, we admit... And further that? Operation with the display, with the camera, with a microphone all the same goes not through file . And the processor time most part leads all in the user code. It is absolutely not obvious to me that optimization of interiors of system even to an ideal state gives a little essential gain of productivity. V> why it "was necessary"? V> This adaptation is fulfilled by forces Net Core team and who it forbids to adapt the development under what it takes in head? Samsung collaborates with Microsoft on open source projects to enable.NET support... Today, Samsung is releasing the first preview of Visual Studio Tools for Tizen, which will enable.NET NET developers to easily build Tizen applications for Smart TVs, wearables such as the Gear S3, smartphones, and IoT devices. Source code will also be contributed to Tizen and.NET open source projects. V> As it can  itself Tizen, except that moment, what at available adaptation under "is simple Linux" it turned out rather simply  and to Tizen? As that to developers  did not surrender under it to develop  tools. S>> (BTW. The C ++ API Tizena was frank  **** m as well as  - I tried to develop on it, yes though and on enough early version) V> I tried for Bada, agree. V> Any not With ++, and the Turbo-paskal, with double initialization, absence of exceptions and generally all buns. Than me there is more than jacket of objects (it is possible you name "double initialization") killed: For everyone  there is the internal object implementing it, and exterior which simply broadcasts calls to the internal. In  to change behavior of object that in BlackBerry became simply inheritance from necessary with overlapping of demanded methods, turns to development new  from zero. V> but it a little  as on me,  atop "system " it is possible to wind modern With ++ 17   and will be to you happiness. Once again: and what for? I not especially love a C ++ and the main one of problems by development were memory leaks, damage of storage and other a C ++ . Yes, with it it is possible to struggle, and I as a result won (at absence valgrind' and all remaining -  is poor), but in any controlled language I had not to spend for this time at all. Yes, would be not so quickly, but in 90 + % of cases the difference in speed without tools is indiscernible.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S>> And here WPF in comparison with  Guem much more is more interesting than orders. V> we already with you considered differences declarative  from reactive, not? V> Sense to repeat? V> for is strong-dynamical things it is convenient reactive , for more or less static - declarative. Here I now write and is declarative and . WPF allows to write and and so. There are no problems. V> and I of problems if it is fair, do not see. V> declarative  is always a certain format of the description + "", a translating certain declarative format in terminology dynamic a scene (anyway) constructed by "engine" over a certain graphic engine. You think, it will be difficult will fasten on top Flutter parcer of a format of language of the description of compositions  XAML?) ) Once again read above. In WPF, in Xamarin. Forms it is possible to create all by means of the code. Simply it in most cases is inconvenient. And there where it is more convenient by means of the code, nobody forbids

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S>> approaches.Net Core b Xamarin Is better. Forms V> Who about what, and bare about a bath. In in and the Samsung in  decided to use.Net Core and Xamarin. Forms It is visible to them a bath it is pleasant more, than yours ?

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: V>> And what difference what of commands will be  ready raws on Swift under other AXIS? > well the command which > knows swift Which should do it did on swift, that and knows.

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Hello, Somescout, you wrote: V>> Tizen sits over the natural monster - kernels Linux. V>> the Kernel this package, despite all  extensions. S> I not absolutely about that: counter Tizen just also was that it nativno-fast. Did not fly up, for it is not enough of it. For all the monster,  atop Linux. Unlike, Bada was not the monster, and was  over any AXIS or it is simple the certain library layer fulfilling f-ii OS. S> moreover, at me WP10 on enough ancient Lumia and speed/operating time as a whole suits me (and it thus that I did not change the battery from the moment of purchase - it already fully sat down). Kernel WP10 more superficial, than . S> On the one hand I will agree is looks very strange,  that only the few  (that now that earlier) receive though any advantage from representation in quality  a file. But... In Windows similar system, even more scale: All objects of system from the point of view of safety are processed by one system manager and possess the uniform rights . And it is healthy. But they (system objects) do not possess the same interface, display to the virtual file system do not demand. It is superfluous bulky functionality. V>> for the Fuchsia free has initially been selected superficial  a kernel, from all these  prejudices. S> well, we admit... And further that? Operation with the display, with the camera, with a microphone all the same goes not through file . Truly, therefore Linux it is not necessary. S> and the processor all leads time most part in the user code. It is absolutely not obvious to me that optimization of interiors of system even to an ideal state gives a little essential gain of productivity. It is less than tics  on everyone  - the battery longer serves. V>> why it "was necessary"? V>> This adaptation is fulfilled by forces Net Core team and who it forbids to adapt the development under what it takes in head? S> Samsung collaborates with Microsoft on open source projects to enable.NET support So who provides support Net Core on Tizen? Unless Samsung? S> Today, Samsung is releasing the first preview of Visual Studio Tools for Tizen, which will enable.NET developers to easily build Tizen applications for Smart TVs, wearables such as the Gear S3, smartphones, and IoT devices. Source code will also be contributed to Tizen and.NET open source projects. It . V>> As it can  itself Tizen, except that moment, what at available adaptation under "is simple Linux" it turned out rather simply  and to Tizen? S> As that to developers  did not surrender under it to develop  tools. Yes it is fine, the main programs in which the user of the smart phone leads 99.99 % of time of use by phone - : - a dialing program - skajp/vajber - contacts - the browser - soap - clients , type VK - cards/navigators V>> But it a little  as on me,  atop "system " it is possible to wind modern With ++ 17   and will be to you happiness. S> Once again: and what for? I not especially love a C ++ and the main one of problems by development were memory leaks, damage of storage and other a C ++ . Yes, with it it is possible to struggle, and I as a result won (at absence valgrind' and all remaining -  is poor), but in any controlled language I had not to spend for this time at all. Yes, would be not so quickly, but in 90 + % of cases the difference in speed without tools is indiscernible. For simple GUI with three buttons, really, differences are not present.