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Hello, Cicero, you wrote: a C> I see that to you your friend that that does not finish speaking or itself did not understand that happened. Accuse of a crime of my friend the court can only. It is the law. Central Bank instructions - not the law.

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Hello, labradorgibraltar, you wrote: L> Accuse of a crime of my friend the court can only. It is the law. Central Bank instructions - not the law. Here history as the client year butted with bank and still received 50 % on top as damage compensating http://www.banki.ru/forum/?PAGE_NAME=me … age1955305 Article 58 of the law about the Central Bank: the Bank of Russia has not the right to demand from the credit organizations of performance of functions unusual for them, and also to demand provision of the information not provided by federal laws on clients of the credit organizations and about other third parties, not connected to banking service of the specified persons. The bank of Russia has not the right to install the restrictions expressly or by implication not provided by federal laws on carrying out of operations by clients of the credit organizations, and also has not the right to oblige the credit organizations to demand from their clients the documents which have been not provided by federal laws.

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Hello, sambl74, you wrote: L>> I here see extortion from employees of bank and an occasion to announcement in police. If the inspector refuses to accept announcement, on it too there is a justice - Office of Public Prosecutor? S> the Central Bank still is.  it is all do type within the limits of 115 . To name the client a radish (or a polecat) is is possible in the street, instead of in court. But that it according to bank the polecat, not is at all the base of lock of its account.

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Hello, labradorgibraltar, you wrote: A>> on account discovery that at the acquaintance is registered In the contract? And that can there the order of closing and an output of means in such type is stipulated? Well also it is attributed somewhere by small letters that the bank can refuse service at any moment. L> about 1500 roubles of point in rates is not present. That is - extortion is available. If there even it is simply written about an output of means at closing by transfer a horse-radish you will come off. Take probably on a standard rate of interbank remittances any percent.

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Hello, andyp, you wrote: A> If there even it is simply written about an output of means at closing by transfer a horse-radish you will come off. Take probably on a standard rate of interbank remittances any percent. By article 858  the Russian Federation it is provided that restriction of the rights of the client on the instruction the money resources which are on the account, is not admitted, except for seizure of the money resources which are on the account, or stay of operations under the account in the cases provided by the law.

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Hello, CodeSniffer, you wrote: CS> by Article 858  the Russian Federation it is provided that restriction of the rights of the client on the instruction the money resources which are on the account, is not admitted, except for seizure of the money resources which are on the account, or stay of operations under the account in the cases provided by the law. So anybody also does not dispose of your means. If procedure of closing of the account and transmission to you of means is described in the contract its bank and fulfills. I doubt that it will be possible to recognize these points insignificant in court.

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Hello, andyp, you wrote: A> So anybody also does not dispose of your means. If procedure of closing of the account and transmission to you of means is described in the contract its bank and fulfills. I doubt that it will be possible to recognize these points insignificant in court. Unilaterally the bank has no right to pause financial services. In case of so-called suspicions in terrorism the bank is obliged to pause operations on __ day and to inform on suspicions in financial monitoring. If the bank does not inform in monitoring then it receives the penalty. But suspicions are besides led under instructions, instead of at will of the fifth foot.

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Hello, CodeSniffer, you wrote: CS> Unilaterally the bank has no right to pause financial services. Similar you are right. Unilaterally the bank cannot break off with you the contract. It will be violation K (well except those cases that in article are described). They also press artfully that the client HIMSELF broke off the contract and closed the account. It is possible for them to tell that they break , but if become stubborn, most likely it is necessary to submit to court. The police and Office of Public Prosecutor here hardly help.

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Hello, labradorgibraltar, you wrote: L> And and here taxes? The bank is a private office, tax is other office. Banks have some obligations superimposed by the law.

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Hello, labradorgibraltar, you wrote: L> can Suspect police or tax. What relation to them has bank? How it will be done by the tax? It does not have direct access to monitoring of driving of money under accounts. Therefore in it the bank, under the law should be engaged. Under I "should" I understand that the state letting out the appropriate law obliged banks it to be engaged. L> instead of whether is better let the bank gives vouchers for the behavior. After all it is bank breaks the rights of the client. The bank operates under laws and Central Bank instructions. It breaks nothing. L> it is necessary to prove money-laundering at first in the judicial order. Your justifications of bank are ridiculous. You are a lawyer of the Savings Bank? The bank is not obliged anything to prove, simply enough to suspect. All agrees the law. Remove pink glasses. So-called "justice" and just anger in this case out of place. I once again will repeat - the bank operates according to laws and Central Bank instructions, and breaks nothing. If you do not like such conditions, carry the grandmas in a suitcase and the counterparts try to convince to arrive as. Thus I do not protect banks, to me such circuits the same not so I simply try to explain an event essence.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Hello, sharpcoder, you wrote: S>> Normal such whip invented, I under it got one year ago, collected a folder of papers on 100 sheets, including payment ,  taxes, the VAT on all way  money from clients to my account. In couple of days unblocked, apologized. Ops> I Am afraid, there there is no  Ops> Ops> Before it deduced money with  and  almost 2 years Then the question costs not "How to punish " and "how to come off clear".

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Hello, Michael7, you wrote: M> Hello, sharpcoder, you wrote: S>> Normal such whip invented, I under it got one year ago, collected a folder of papers on 100 sheets, including payment ,  taxes, the VAT on all way  money from clients to my account. In couple of days unblocked, apologized. M> well that is if any pieces of paper were lost, any and was not, any organization where could confirm something was closed or did not want etc. money greetings, there were you, there were we, moreover and in the black list? You can confirm the fact of payment of taxes in tax, receive therefrom all helps.

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Hello, labradorgibraltar, you wrote: L> Hello, sharpcoder, you wrote: S>> Look, the bank suspected your acquaintance of illegal operations for the purpose of leaving from taxes. S>> asks to confirm legality of money and payment from them taxes. L> can suspect police or tax. What relation to them has bank? The Central Bank so invented, the State Duma passed appropriate laws. S>> if you silently you will agree on transfer in other bank the automatic machine you will get to the black list of Rosfinmonitoringa. S>> it is necessary to quit such situation by provision of all interrogated documents by bank. L> instead of whether is better let the bank gives vouchers for the behavior. After all it is bank breaks the rights of the client. Not better for whom? We have huge holes of illegal driving of money in Russia. The police and tax is not engaged in physicists practically, and also small volumes of cashing in. This function decided to transfer to banks under control of Rosfinmonitoringa. L>>> I here see extortion from employees of bank and an occasion to announcement in police. If the inspector refuses to accept announcement, on it too there is a justice - Office of Public Prosecutor? S>> esteem laws, they operate according to  about money-laundering, there is written that they do not suffer any responsibility for the damage caused to you or cannot be  for it. L> it is necessary to prove money-laundering at first in the judicial order. Your justifications of bank are ridiculous. You are a lawyer of the Savings Bank? I am simple our laws studied when itself it appeared in the same situation. In the beginning just anger "you  bank now will pay" then studied the law and understood that the law on the side of bank and me it is necessary or to show legality of my incomes or hi black list (and it ).

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Hello, sharpcoder, you wrote: S> Then the question costs not "How to punish " and "how to come off clear". It at whom? At the HARDWARE like yet does not cost. And I would esteem about punishment process

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> I Am afraid, there there is no  Ops> Ops> Before it deduced money with  and  almost 2 years I too deduced money with  and paid from them , . Whether About  interesting, really, it is paid?

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> How to punish  I Look at the schedule, punishment moves ahead 2 day successfully? To what price you are going to punish?

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This pancake  - a tin. In office the salary contract with it. A multi-card.    it is free. I think hurt. I come into a private office. To activate  notifications it is possible only . 60 not money, but what horse-radish? I ring in technical support. Speak there are two possibilities. To connect notifications  from a private office or by phone. Or reversal in the separation which has produced a card is free by personal. When came to separation - questions all disappeared. In queue the person twenty, spend for everyone on the average minutes ten. It is easy to present as I them covered with a floor-mat on Friday evening. Probably on it and calculation that I will hammer and I will connect .