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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Hello, jhfrek, you wrote: J>> when you come to salon to buy the car for 400 how it has been written in advertizing, In what else advertizing? All prices and machines available available at dealers on sites are drawn. Well go buy on it the basis version what-thread. J>> suddenly it appears that here is direct before you took away the last copy that new same it is necessary  and to wait half a year that to it in a set the vendor delivers  on 100 and they is direct here very much would like to sell without them, but cannot that... (...  in other salon and not...  it brains, all of them equally invent any excuse) in general a horse-radish this machine will buy though from whom in a city in a basic complete set. And such really till now in large quantities happens? Now like not 2008 with transcendental sales and purchases on record on half a year forward. Well here is how you will buy, you will tell. If that - to buy the car in  not the problem. J>> Instead of in basic the price begins from 600. Therefore 500 for \ it is quite normal, despite that that is more than 400 Well, that is all the same 20 % lose. Well as though on 25 % is more expensive 400, and the author was perturbed comparing with 400, instead of real 600.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: You sounded that it will be "fire wood". Yes - for 90 %. Therefore that also needs to be selected accurately to receive a wheelbarrow from 10 %. This too hrenovo-inadequate state for the whole 60 % from cost new. At all the different concept about fire wood - probably here is covered misunderstanding. That for me fire wood - for the buyer of a mass budgetary wheelbarrow for 60 % from cost will be probable not fire wood. And new such for it "it will be simple space" I do not believe that the people in large quantities would buy cars with such unprofitable ratio the price/quality. However, actively buy. That is or idiots all around, or not "fire wood". Set better a specific example - show a mass budgetary wheelbarrow for 60 % from cost new, we consider - whether it is possible to find a good state easily there.

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Hello, Serpuh, you wrote: S> And after all it is absolutely right. For 450 it is fire wood will be, and you a candy want from it. Fire wood is "an ashtray got littered"?

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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> Fire wood is "an ashtray got littered"? I will offer such sight at "fire wood". Fire wood is a machine with unremovable for reasonable money and time lacks which are available at the moment of purchase or gets out in the first year of maintenance and which (lacks) are unacceptable for a new car. Here a lot of subjective - but an essence that buying "fire wood" and enclosing in it of money - so much, how many it is necessary to add for purchase new, you will not receive result, though somehow similar on new a car.

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Hello, wraithik, you wrote:> In what else advertizing? All prices and machines available available at dealers on sites are drawn. W> well go buy on it the basis version what-thread. And in what a problem? Here, official floor price from  - 694 . Here the first official dealer of a car available sells for 694 .

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> I Will offer such sight at "fire wood". Fire wood is a machine with unremovable for reasonable money and time lacks which are available at the moment of purchase or gets out in the first year of maintenance and which (lacks) are unacceptable for a new car. What? A shabby wheel?  on 10 % it is more than oil from the new? V> here a lot of subjective - but an essence that buying "fire wood" and enclosing in it of money - so much, how many it is necessary to add for purchase new, you will not receive result, though somehow similar on new a car. What do you name "similar on new"?

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: And in what a problem? Here, official floor price from  - 694 . Strange, but the official minimum costs 625 for 2017 year and 655 for 2018, instead of: Here the first official dealer of a car available for 694 . And in advertizing it is written "from 624 900" - actually about that speech that you at the price in advertizing it is not often possible to buy (if at all happens probably on some models).

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> https://www.kia.ru/models/rio/options/V>  3 on the automatic machine 735/755 cheapest. It with options for a trade-in and the credit. And simply machine 785/795.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> Fire wood is "an ashtray got littered"? An ashtray. If the taxi driver, winding  with  and removing covers from seats, that " as ", forgets it to clean.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote:> And in what a problem? Here, official floor price from  - 694 . V> it is strange, but official minimum costs 625 for 2017 year and 655 for 2018, instead of: You with options a discount for a trade-in and the credit look. At the dealer they too are at desire.

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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> What? A shabby wheel?  on 10 % it is more than oil from the new? And what - a shabby wheel any more a lack? The wheel with the wiped high layer  for hands at driving also collects a dirt.  oils of 10 % between changeovers . And here its some reasons - are not present. Examples - please: - any "check-endzhin" sometimes lights up or   - mirror regulation jams - glasses creak at rise/lowering, on glasses plural vertical bands. - a crack or  on front - the stayed pillows of a driver's seat - the scratch of a suspension bracket caused by its deterioration under changeover - the peep of brakes caused by malfunction of a support/cylinder - the machine in a heat overheats - climate control works "as that not so" I to you can much . These lacks on a singleton do not walk. TB> that you name "similar on new"? Similar to the new.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Hello, viellsky, you wrote:>> And in what a problem? Here, official floor price from  - 694 . V>> it is strange, but official minimum costs 625 for 2017 year and 655 for 2018, instead of: You with options a discount for a trade-in and the credit look. At the dealer they too are at zhelanii.\Go and buy. I so hardly beyond Vestoj did not drive to Moscow, where 840 by phone and 925 upon. Well generally a hogwash, 85 by the budgetary machine. It there "" .

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V>> https://www.kia.ru/models/rio/options/V>>  3 on the automatic machine 735/755 cheapest. It with options for a trade-in and the credit. And simply machine 785/795. It is clear. I to what even at all desire is not clear, whence the HARDWARE took "670 new"

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: You with options a discount for a trade-in and the credit look. At the dealer they too are at desire. Well, everyone happens. That write to you - I met repeatedly when helped relatives to buy a budgetary crossover. The best that came across - "yes, there is a basis - but it is necessary to pay in addition for color of 10 thousand, to import advance payment and to wait 3 months".

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: V>> it is strange, but official minimum costs 625 for 2017 year and 655 for 2018, instead of: You with options a discount for a trade-in and the credit look. At the dealer they too are at desire. Ah yes - still typical  - on a site is, upon - "yes, of course, is, come" - you come, and "it reserved" or "on this machine we delivered a signaling and overlays on windows - therefore the price such"

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That is or idiots all around, or not "fire wood". And you look at video at same Ildara with  buyers... When to it bring a wheelbarrow for 500 # and it, by reviewing, it appears even worse than fire wood. And with inexpensive Koreans and  which are loved by taxi drivers, I suspect that percent 90 markets of second-hand cars of these marks -  . So idiots, more truly people which it is easily possible  fire wood under the pretext of not fire wood and at the price not fire wood. In the same place still a counter that on purchase the machine for one million you will call the expert, and at machine purchase for 500 you will want to spare. It also use .

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> For the sake of interest looked on .: the link V> To 450 - only one sentence, a taxi. You should not search sorters, and car thieves - differently it is not clear where to take the good machine for your budget. You selected rio-restyling, these are machines from 2015 -  they in such price are not present. To me enough normal, them in the given budget there were 86 pieces.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> It is clear. I to what even at all desire is not clear, whence the HARDWARE took "670 new" Therefrom, whence 450 in . with the automatic machine.))

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> You selected rio-restyling, these are machines from 2015 -  they in such price are not present. To me enough normal, them in the given budget there were 86 pieces. I suspect, you could not inform to the manager this thought from the first attempt. Anyway, announcement about "670 such new" looks doubtful - since new is , and it costs on  more expensively.

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Hello, Serpuh, you wrote: B>> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". S> And after all it is absolutely right. For 450 it is fire wood will be, and you a candy want from it. Now new with sickly 1.4  and rather empty from 785. When I looked one month ago, it with "the family car" and a trade-other cost 670 thousand - I remembered this digit well since thought and about new too. 550 + 25 = 575 -  it is necessary, when it is possible to add 95 and to take new, and newer model?! I can and made, if the family car did not end already.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V>>>  3 on the automatic machine 735/755 cheapest.>> It with options for a trade-in and the credit. And simply machine 785/795. V> It is clear. I to what even at all desire is not clear, whence the HARDWARE took "670 new" it Can new without the automatic machine looked. Or considered a grant of 10 % on family a car from the state.

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> When I looked one month ago, it with "the family car" and a trade-other cost 670 thousand - I remembered this digit well since thought and about new too. Between "cost" and "went and bought" also with an option "did not lose 50-100  on " a difference of thousand on 150-200. B> 550 + 25 = 575 -  it is necessary, when it is possible to add 95 Alas, it is impossible - there are no such prices. B> and to take new, and newer model?! To you suggested for 550 to pick up ? B> I can and made, if the family car did not end already. Alas and ah - the reality works by a principle of uncertainty of Murphy - while you will not make real actions, you do not learn, whether really it was possible to make how you thought. Experience prompts that with very high probability you would not manage to carry out that good bargain which you to yourself drew in a head, leaning against advertizing.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Or considered a grant of 10 % on family a car from the state. Well, it is healthy that - the market considers 10 % a grant to small percent of buyers. Actually therefore it also enter, that  state program target audience to select new a car instead of the second-hand. Only to autosorters on it somehow  - on volume of transactions second-hand this grant does not affect the market though as that noticeably.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> Examples - please: V> - any "check-endzhin" sometimes lights up or   V> - regulation of a mirror V> jams - glasses creak at rise/lowering, on glasses plural vertical bands. V> - a crack or  on front V> - the stayed pillows of a driver's seat V> - the scratch of a suspension bracket caused by its deterioration under changeover V> - the peep of brakes caused by malfunction of a support/cylinder V> - the machine in a heat overheats V> - climate control works "as that not so" V> I to you can much . These lacks on a singleton do not walk. What we gentle...

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Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: IT> Ems, and what  parameters because judging by the same car  - it is difficult to find rather adequate copy of the last generation for this money = the manager of the rights. In sense of the last? Last it is 4 now, and I requested 3, previous. And without restrictions on a year. From  the main thing the air conditioner, but it on idea in all is. IT> at them there the pipeline for diamond among heaps  they also will not search, therefore it is necessary to orient on the average price for the given complete set on a car  +5 % if it would be desirable a copy almost as from under the grandfather. So the average price for them 400, I and so +10 % put. B>> what sorter you recommend? IT> https://vk.com/avto_smotr Thanks.