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Hello, T4r4sB, you wrote: TB> What we gentle... It already absolutely other question.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>> When I looked one month ago, it with "the family car" and a trade-other cost 670 thousand - I remembered this digit well since thought and about new too. V> Between "cost" and "went and bought" also with an option "did not lose 50-100  on " a difference of thousand on 150-200. At me the current machine costs 100 - hardly it estimate on 0 roubles. And I do not think that  the site says lies with the prices. V> alas and ah - the reality works by a principle of uncertainty of Murphy - while you will not make real actions, you do not learn, whether really it was possible to make how you thought. Experience prompts that with very high probability you would not manage to carry out that good bargain which you to yourself drew in a head, leaning against advertizing. It yes. But and now it seems to me that the price such approximately and was. B>> 550 + 25 = 575 -  it is necessary, when it is possible to add 95 V> Alas, it is impossible - there are no such prices. Well now, after action end, yes ((B>> and to take new, and newer model?! V> to you suggested for 550 to pick up ? I told "Rio three, on the automatic machine". Word-for-word. I do not know that here it was possible to understand not so.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>> You selected rio-restyling, these are machines from 2015 -  they in such price are not present. To me enough normal, them in the given budget there were 86 pieces. V> I suspect, you could not inform to the manager this thought from the first attempt. Anyway, announcement about "670 such new" looks doubtful - since new is , and it costs on  more expensively. New is not , and Rio-4. Plus, judging by responses, it is their standard method of operation - to bend at once on total magnification. It is clear that it simplifies it operation, but me the machine in my money interests. Therefore also I write - "was not took", instead of "goats"

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> At me the current machine costs 100 - hardly it estimate on 0 roubles. Well look - you in the car market, at you two powerful advantages before remaining mass of buyers - favourable  + "family a car". What for to go marketing second-hand where at you advantages are not present? B> And I do not think that  the site says lies with the prices. The Off-site does not say lies. Simply when business reaches real purchase at the dealer - "there are nuances". Here nearby in  esteem. I once faced and have been really surprised by a real situation in the market of new mass cars. B> it yes. But and now it seems to me that the price such approximately and was. We tell so - you had a chance. This chance is implemented by the few - and it is reflected in the prices on second-hand. B> I told "Rio three, on the automatic machine". Word-for-word. I do not know that here it was possible to understand not so. Probably that by default select the fresh not killed machine - so council to increase the budget it is logical at the first stage of talk.

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B>> I told "Rio three, on the automatic machine". Word-for-word. I do not know that here it was possible to understand not so. V> that by default select the fresh not killed machine is visible - so council to increase the budget is logical at the first stage of talk. And it is then obvious that  is uninteresting to dig in a selection in which for suggested price of 80 % of machines will be stuff. It is more favourable to it to try to deduce the buyer on the total where the percent of good machines will be above and allows it to earn.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>> At me the current machine costs 100 - hardly it estimate on 0 roubles. V> well look - you in the car market, at you two powerful advantages before remaining mass of buyers - favourable  + "family a car". What for to go marketing second-hand where at you advantages are not present? Because budget restriction, unless it is not obvious? I thought about new the Grant which was almost in the budget, but did not come... B>> I told "Rio three, on the automatic machine". Word-for-word. I do not know that here it was possible to understand not so. V> that by default select the fresh not killed machine is visible - so council to increase the budget is logical at the first stage of talk. And I thought they select that is necessary for the client, instead of that is convenient it. But , I will mean.

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> Because budget restriction, unless it is not obvious? I thought about new the Grant which was almost in the budget, but did not come... Really - it is not obvious. When you refer that could buy theoretically new for 670 - obviously that you compare two variants of actions for yourself. Otherwise what sense to appeal to alternative which at you upon is not present?

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: In what then a trick, what for someone buys second-hand years 3-4 with run of thousand in 100, for 80-90 % from the price new? It beats my time. . I too do not understand. Here in salon you will buy, with a warranty (and the more cost, the is more than jambs,  sensors and any buttons on much more) and  that one, the second, the third jamb. You shake before a nose of the engineer on a warranty a piece of paper with , jambs more or less qualitatively start to correct. And here the machine to take second-hand, it is not known from whom, for itself? Well . For yourself you take, favourite. 10-20 % from cost can and has what that value, but this money with interest justify during maintenance.

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Hello, jhfrek, you wrote: J> when you come to salon to buy the car for 400 as it has been written in advertizing, it is not necessary to look advertizing, it is necessary to look residuals in  a file which are practically at everyone  on their site.

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Hello, AWSVladimir, you wrote:> In what then a trick, what for someone buys second-hand years 3-4 with run of thousand in 100, for 80-90 % from the price new? It beats my time. AWS> for yourself you take, favourite. 10-20 % from cost can and has what that value, but this money with interest justify during maintenance. I suspect, the devil is covered in details of real transactions. It is necessary to look at real transactions (both in the market new, and in the market second-hand) with real cars (taking into account all ) - then the logic will be more clear. Also it appears that there are no fools who buy with discount of 10 % a wheelbarrow with run in 100  not on a warranty.

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>>> When I looked one month ago, it with "the family car" and a trade-other cost 670 thousand - I remembered this digit well since thought and about new too. V>> Between "cost" and "went and bought" also with an option "did not lose 50-100  on " a difference of thousand on 150-200. B> At me the current machine costs 100 - hardly it estimate on 0 roubles. And I do not think that  the site says lies with the prices. You think a motor show buys all cars successively? He simply does not buy your machine.

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Hello, Denwer, you wrote: D> You think a motor show buys all cars successively? He simply does not buy your machine. From what? I asked plus - told that quite buy.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: V>>> it is strange, but official minimum costs 625 for 2017 year and 655 for 2018, instead of:> You with options a discount for a trade-in and the credit look. At the dealer they too are at desire. V> ah yes - still typical  - on a site is, upon - "yes, of course, is, come" - you come, and "it reserved" or "on this machine we delivered a signaling and overlays on windows - therefore the price such" By phone it did not specify? I asked - all fairly answered, but heard happens on a miscellaneous.

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> Hello, Denwer, you wrote: D>> You think a motor show buys all cars successively? He simply does not buy your machine. B> from what? B> I asked Plus - told that quite buy. To answer and buy two big differences. And still can make here is how, if the machine under the order especially. Speak that take and even the price tell, when the custom machine comes, already and the price another or at all do not take.

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>> You selected rio-restyling, these are machines from 2015 -  they in such price are not present. To me enough normal, them in the given budget there were 86 pieces. V> I suspect, you could not inform to the manager this thought from the first attempt. Can in a bum of such managers and such offices? And that again something does not reach them.  it is finite  it is good bla-bla however responses more likely as at the HARDWARE.

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Hello, jhfrek, you wrote: V>> that by default select the fresh not killed machine is visible - so council to increase the budget is logical at the first stage of talk. J> and it is then obvious that  is uninteresting to dig in a selection in which for suggested price of 80 % of machines will be stuff. It is more favourable to it to try to deduce the buyer on the total where the percent of good machines will be above and allows it to earn.  to work less as it it would be desirable  precisely.

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Hello, wraithik, you wrote: W> By phone it did not specify? I asked - all fairly answered, but heard happens on a miscellaneous. I heard that differently happens to any left hach-salons, but there, obviously, and it is not necessary to be put. With official dealers all is more or less normal.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Hello, wraithik, you wrote: W>> By phone it did not specify? I asked - all fairly answered, but heard happens on a miscellaneous. I heard that differently happens to any left hach-salons, but there, obviously, and it is not necessary to be put. With official dealers all is more or less normal. Was specific I had Avtogremes or Hermes-car,  as is correct. The official dealer VAZ. - you have Vesta the Cross connect? - Is - How many costs? - 840 is a real price, for it give? - Yes-....... Long talk - I.e. if I to you arrive to its smog for 840 to take away or there will be still any ? - Yes, on it  - What price with ? - 925 I Rostov, they in Moscow. Well though told about .

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> - mirror regulation On mine  jams a new mirror 5000, second-hand in perfect tune 2500. V> - glasses creak at rise/lowering, on glasses plural vertical bands. VAZ? V> - a crack or  on front It too is unremovable? V> - the stayed pillows of a driver's seat VAZ or 30 years to the machine? V> - the scratch of a suspension bracket caused by its deterioration under changeover Is direct here so all? The suspension bracket, by the way, normally does not creak, and knocks. And changeover  in a suspension bracket not such and expensive action. Some everyone THAT generally  I change. V> - the peep of brakes caused by malfunction of a support/cylinder Peep of brakes is caused by the sand hammered into receptacles. V> I to you can much . These lacks on a singleton do not walk. Their most part quickly also is cheaply treated. It is possible to "get" in the core with , , the motor or with strongly beaten digested body.

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B> I asked Plus - told that quite buy. You only are accurater with sale to salon, it would be necessary to read the contract that it there was no contract on implementation

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: I heard that differently happens to any left hach-salons, but there, obviously, and it is not necessary to be put. With official dealers all is more or less normal. Here you naive, a fuck-up simply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9m1mLIZHU

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: NANOSECOND> Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V>> - regulation of a mirror of NANOSECOND> On mine  jams a new mirror 5000, second-hand in perfect tune 2500. , add here time for selection second-hand (from the first successful will be, yes?) )), a trip to service and money for changeover. V>> - glasses creak at rise/lowering, on glasses plural vertical bands. NANOSECOND> VAZ? Repeatedly met by different machines. What - foreign cars are protected from dust/sand hit on outer side of side windows? Or are protected from the owner who will lower dirty glasses? V>> - a crack or  on front NANOSECOND> It too is unremovable? The argument is not clear - read on one post above. It is possible to eliminate all. A question in eliminating union for comprehensible time and money. Consider that some sores are treated not from the first and not from the second time - since or the owner starts to find (to buy second-hand a mirror at which because of an old age then something is covered in a month) or  incorrectly diagnoses (especially cheerfully when search of a source of a problem by serial changeover of all suspicious begins). V>> - the stayed pillows of a driver's seat of NANOSECOND> VAZ or 30 years to the machine? Is not present - budgetary mass a car. VAZ too in this category, as well as   for example. 60 % of cost such machines reach on imposing run and for imposing time + initially cheap materials/konstruktiv. V>> - the scratch of a suspension bracket caused by its deterioration under changeover of NANOSECOND> Is direct here so all? The suspension bracket, by the way, normally does not creak, and knocks. And changeover  in a suspension bracket not such and expensive action. Some everyone THAT generally  I change. Knocks, when there all completely became loose. Creaks too most advantageously - at the initial stage (in  the hinge gets any dust/sand, lubrication is washed is already consider death of the hinge). Simply often people are not soared, since also the salon at them creaks and  in salon such that to outside sounds got used not to pay attention. V>> - the peep of brakes caused by malfunction of a support/cylinder of NANOSECOND> Peep of brakes is caused by the sand hammered into receptacles. There is no such reason is a myth. The sound turns out because of high-frequency oscillations of a receptacle. The reasons happen different - from a poor-quality material of receptacles to malfunction of a support. The worst is a wedge of the cylinder in a support which does not allow to depart to a receptacle after braking on the gap set by the designer. The wedge can be caused a hole in  (imperceptible at survey) with subsequent  the cylinder and its holder. It is a support under changeover. But in the beginning the owner does a bit of traveling in service of time three - on changeover of receptacles, then on changeover of receptacles by better, then on changeover of disks. V>> I to you can much . These lacks on a singleton do not walk. The NANOSECOND> their Most part quickly also is cheaply treated. Any part. But if them to add - that runs both on time and on money and on risks . NANOSECOND> it is possible to "Get" in the core with , , the motor or with strongly beaten digested body. Single hit just nonsense. Once cured also all. And the dial-up of jambs is a heap of time and a haemoplenty on their elimination. Actually, therefore it is necessary either not to take fire wood or to be reconciled, not to be "such gentle"

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Hello, viellsky, you wrote: V> There is no such reason is a myth. The sound turns out because of high-frequency oscillations of a receptacle. The reasons happen different - from a poor-quality material of receptacles to malfunction of a support. The worst is a wedge of the cylinder in a support which does not allow to depart to a receptacle after braking on the gap set by the designer. The wedge can be caused a hole in  (imperceptible at survey) with subsequent  the cylinder and its holder. It is a support under changeover. But in the beginning the owner does a bit of traveling in service of time three - on changeover of receptacles, then on changeover of receptacles by better, then on changeover of disks. It is possible to sort out, hammer in all solid oil and to try to fix  hermetic. For some time suffices, it is checked up. But the support should be changed as a result

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Hello, jhfrek, you wrote: J> it is possible to sort out, hammer in all solid oil and to try to fix  hermetic. For some time suffices, it is checked up. But the support should be changed as a result Yes - so it is possible. Actually about that and speech that life of the owner of "fire wood" will consist of the daily decision of such problems. At what to dare at support changeover (and now vendors do all in collection) to it it will be heavy - the toad which  to buy fire wood more cheaply will press.

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Hello, GarryIV, you wrote: GIV> Can in a bum of such managers and such offices? And that again something does not reach them. Can and in a bum. GIV> Ildar is finite  is good bla-bla however responses more likely as at the HARDWARE. I saw somehow its roller one. To tell the truth, it did not suggest me trust - and I would not go to it. I.e. at me exactly same sensation was added - is aimed to pour in more in ears to attract more .