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Topic: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

As well as promised, I addressed in company Ildara. But something was not took: 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". Here the manager retired to the background and answered "well if year is higher that can be..." . Upd, on numerous comments: 1.1 Price 670 - on new Rio-4 on the automatic machine in complete set Comfort, taking into account programs "Family car" and a trade-in. 1.2 I so understood on responses, the sag on budget magnification is their standard course, irrespectively the totals. 2. To me did not meet in due course. Standard search 2 months, and we in a month for a month leave. I offered search 3 months with a break for a month if suddenly we are not in time, on what categorically answered me is not present. A pier if be afraid that order already as return. I told that I do not want to lose month, but all the same answered was not present. Also told that only in 10 days can start, if we agree. 3. Them  a warranty, proceeding from contract reading, not such the abrupt." Refund if did not find "it is impossible, if the sorter had time to look at 3 machines. I.e. one day of its operation, and advance payment already precisely it. And" repair at our expense if passed malfunction ", operates only on mechanics. And that is more important, only within payment for service, i.e. no more than 25 .. Not densely... In general, I decided to look for someone else. But a pancake, service selection of an autosorter I guilty business now is necessary I think about youdo - I still had very pleasant impressions of this service, and system of responses there good. But a problem that responses normally write right after purchases under its impression. And it is interesting in a month-other, it depends time and it becomes clear, whether the normal machine picked up. Therefore a question: What sorter you recommend? If not personally used, then at whom it makes sense to look narrowly.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> As well as promised, I addressed in company Ildara. But something was not took: FYI: a companion sells SX4 2011 (1.6, the full drive, the mechanic), in your budget .

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, hardcase, you wrote: H> Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B>> As well as promised, I addressed in company Ildara. But something was not took: H> FYI: a companion sells SX4 2011 (1.6, the full drive, the mechanic), in your budget . In the budget yes, and under characteristics is not present. Where ?

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". And after all it is absolutely right. For 450 it is fire wood will be, and you a candy want from it. Now new with sickly 1.4  and rather empty from 785.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Serpuh, you wrote: S> Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B>> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". S> And after all it is absolutely right. For 450 it is fire wood will be, and you a candy want from it. Now new with sickly 1.4  and rather empty from 785. Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? And how myths, what the machine only leaving salon already 20 % loses?

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". Here the manager retired to the background and answered "well if year is higher that can be...". For the sake of interest looked on .: the link To 450 - only one sentence, a taxi. You should not search sorters, and car thieves - differently it is not clear where to take the good machine for your budget.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, viellsky, you wrote: B>> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". Here the manager retired to the background and answered "well if year is higher that can be...". V> For the sake of interest looked on .: the link V> To 450 - only one sentence, a taxi. You not searched for that, he did not write a word "Restyling" after 3.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? And how myths, what the machine only leaving salon already 20 % loses?

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Mihas, you wrote:> Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? And how myths, what the machine only leaving salon already 20 % loses? M> Gesterezis In what then a trick, what for someone buys second-hand years 3-4 with run of thousand in 100, for 80-90 % from the price new? It beats my time.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> 1. Since first minute me tried to bend on budget magnification. I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". To me answered "it poorly, it would be necessary to lift to 500, and it is better to 550". I told "you ?! It new costs 670". Here the manager retired to the background and answered "well if year is higher that can be...". Ems, and what  parameters because judging by the same car  - it is difficult to find rather adequate copy of the last generation for this money = the manager of the rights. At them there the pipeline for diamond among heaps  they also will not search, therefore it is necessary to orient on the average price for the given complete set on a car  +5 % if it would be desirable a copy almost as from under the grandfather. B> what sorter you recommend? https://vk.com/avto_smotr

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: B> I told "you ?! It new costs 670".> You not searched for that, he did not write a word "Restyling" after 3.  like as do not sell new for 670. I.e. it is not clear then the HARDWARE argumentation - if you want that, which new for 670 - the budget should be strictly above 450. And  for 670 is already basically other machine, than .

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? It depends on model. The mass budgetary machine for 60 % from new it is conditional telling on 99 % semifire wood, on 90 % fire wood. That for 60 % to buy good - it is necessary to look towards expensive machines in the content, in  complete sets (but also the price of 60 % will be from the price new  complete sets).

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, viellsky, you wrote:> Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? V> it depends on model. The mass budgetary machine for 60 % from new it is conditional telling on 99 % semifire wood, on 90 % fire wood. Sounds as delirium for anybody then at all did not buy second-hand cars for the sense is not present.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: In what then a trick, what for someone buys second-hand years 3-4 with run of thousand in 100, for 80-90 % from the price new? It beats my time. Depends on a brand -  lose occasionally on 30 and more %, and budgetary - yes, lose so much.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? And how myths, what the machine only leaving salon already 20 % loses? It is a myth works for machines for some millions. At inexpensive it works exactly on the contrary, leaving salon it rises in price on 20 % or more

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote:> In what then a trick, what for someone buys second-hand years 3-4 with run of thousand in 100, for 80-90 % from the price new? It beats my time. IT> depends on a brand -  lose occasionally on 30 and more %, and budgetary - yes, lose so much. Premiums it is clear, it not other world. But who buys budgetary for the price of 90 % new, in what sense?

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, jhfrek, you wrote:> Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? And how myths, what the machine only leaving salon already 20 % loses? J> it is a myth works for machines for some millions. J> at inexpensive it works exactly on the contrary, leaving salon it rises in price on 20 % or more What for someone buys it, if nearby there is a salon with the new?

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: J>> At inexpensive it works exactly on the contrary, leaving salon it rises in price on 20 % or more What for someone buys it, if nearby there is a salon with the new? Magic when you come to salon to buy the car for 400 as it has been written in advertizing, suddenly it appears that here is direct before you took away the last copy that new same it is necessary  and to wait half a year that to it in a set the vendor delivers  on 100 and they is direct here very much would like to sell without them, but cannot that... (...  in other salon and not...  it brains, all of them equally invent any excuse) in general a horse-radish this machine will buy though from whom in a city in a basic complete set. Instead of in basic the price begins from 600. Therefore 500 for \ it is quite normal, despite that that is more than 400

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Hello, viellsky, you wrote:>> Why 60 % from the price new for second-hand it already fire wood? V>> it depends on model. The mass budgetary machine for 60 % from new it is conditional telling on 99 % semifire wood, on 90 % fire wood. Sounds as delirium for anybody then at all did not buy second-hand cars for the sense is not present. "Purchase of a mass budgetary wheelbarrow for 60 % from cost new" it is not equal "purchase of a second-hand car". And why there is no sense to buy "fire wood" or "semifire wood"? Buy even the full stuff, at what  and with advantage for itself -  for example for transportation of a carcass with building materials.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, jhfrek, you wrote: J> when you come to salon to buy the car for 400 how it has been written in advertizing, In what else advertizing? All prices and machines available available at dealers on sites are drawn. J> suddenly it appears that here is direct before you took away the last copy that new same it is necessary  and to wait half a year that to it in a set the vendor delivers  on 100 and they is direct here very much would like to sell without them, but cannot that... (...  in other salon and not...  it brains, all of them equally invent any excuse) in general a horse-radish this machine will buy though from whom in a city in a basic complete set. And such really till now in large quantities happens? Now like not 2008 with transcendental sales and purchases on record on half a year forward. J> Instead of in basic the price begins from 600. Therefore 500 for \ it is quite normal, despite that that is more than 400 Well, that is all the same 20 % lose.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, viellsky, you wrote:> Sounds as delirium for anybody then at all did not buy second-hand cars for the sense is not present. V> "Purchase of a mass budgetary wheelbarrow for 60 % from cost new" it is not equal "purchase of a second-hand car". V> And why there is no sense to buy "fire wood" or "semifire wood"? Buy even the full stuff, at what  and with advantage for itself -  for example for transportation of a carcass with building materials. I do not doubt that buy any stuff. But for the appropriate reasonable price, instead of at the price almost as new in salon costs.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: J>> when you come to salon to buy the car for 400 how it has been written in advertizing, In what else advertizing? All prices and machines available available at dealers on sites are drawn. In everyone. You open log or a site, and there Logan for 2 roubles offer. Whether you ask salon and truth at them Logan 2 roubles costs, they speak truth. And you come to buy... And such really till now in large quantities happens? Now like not 2008 with transcendental sales and purchases on record on half a year forward. ... You somehow passed by rollers of Driving from motor shows and do not know that  dealers generally goes bankrupt? Now not 2008, is now worse - you conclude the contract on delivery in flow of couple of months, pay one million and all. In 2 months you start to send  to court. J>> instead of in basic the price begins from 600. Therefore 500 for \ it is quite normal, despite that that is more than 400 Well, that is all the same 20 % lose. From 400 For a mass customer the machine costs 400 because in each toilet advertizing speaks to it about it. Mahlo who under the list of options recovers the price at the dealer, moreover and  considers.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: I do not doubt that buy any stuff. But for the appropriate reasonable price, instead of at the price almost as new in salon costs. And where the contradiction? For 60 % from cost "new in salon" (mass inexpensive a car) you will buy an appropriate state which I to you sounded.

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, viellsky, you wrote:> I do not doubt that buy any stuff. But for the appropriate reasonable price, instead of at the price almost as new in salon costs. V> And where the contradiction? For 60 % from cost "new in salon" (mass inexpensive a car) you will buy an appropriate state which I to you sounded. You sounded that it will be "fire wood". This too hrenovo-inadequate state for the whole 60 % from cost new. I do not believe that the people in large quantities would buy cars with such unprofitable ratio the price/quality. However, actively buy. That is or idiots all around, or not "fire wood".

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Re: Who used autosorters? (+ about Ildare)

Hello, Basil2, you wrote: B> I requested "rio-3 on the automatic machine, to 450". "You ?! It new costs 670". https://www.kia.ru/models/rio/options/ 3 on the automatic machine 735/755 cheapest.