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Hello, falcoware, you wrote: S>> Eshe add gamblings and piraMMMidy/lohotrony. But how it corresponds with your vital principles as Christian? F> http://www.socioguru.ru/sgurus-208-3.html F> the opinion rather authoritative  the thinker of blissful Avgustina is interesting: "Get rid of public maids and force of passions destroys all." F> so in 1033 the Pope Benedict 9 opened brothels in Rome. F> 15. Its Judas and  also saw it for the loose woman because it closed the person. F> 16. He  to it also told: I will enter to you. For did not know that it is its daughter-in-law. She told: what will you give to me if you will enter to me? F> (the book Life 38:15,16) F> 31. Which of two executed will of the father? Speak to It: the first. Jesus speaks to them: truly I say to you that  and loose women forward you go to Tsarstvo Bozhie ... F> (the St. Gospel from Matfeja 21:31) http://files.rsdn.org/125657/Captura%20 … -10-51.png

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Hello, koenig, you wrote: K> there are still sensible students K> at them, just, and with operation hardly that hinders the sensible student directly to work with a stock exchange?

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> that hinders the sensible student directly to work with a stock exchange? That that it sensible in respect of programming, instead of in respect of social , for example.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> that hinders the sensible student directly to work with a stock exchange? 1. Ignorance of language 2. Laziness 3. Laziness 4. Laziness 5. Laziness

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area? At the initial stage I advise instead of surrounding myself "with employees for 300$/month" (obviously that is students, diffident, losers,  and other freaks) to find one or several normal and initiative experts. Let from them at first there will be a minimum margin (in an ideal to agree on shares from projects), but will learn to work with normal people, as they say "it is better with clever to lose, than with the fool to find". Your business model works on another if itself you will be nursed with 300$/m fools and to rake behind them a shit you will quickly burn out, the free time will not be and again will come to that that it cannot be scaled. Such offices appear every day and every day die. On each 3-6 fools one normal expert is necessary to you,  the signor/timlid who receives normal money and incurs all small  with your employees, i.e. puts tasks, leads , adjusts when it is necessary and  +, in an ideal, is still necessary  which interacted with the customer for you. Only so you can concentrate on higher things, instead of dig in manure with all.

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The C> on each 3-6 fools is necessary to You one normal expert,  the signor/timlid who receives normal money and incurs all small  with your employees, i.e. puts tasks, leads , adjusts when it is necessary and  +, in an ideal, is still necessary  which interacted with the customer for you. Only so you can concentrate on higher things, instead of dig in manure with all. If you find  more cleverly you not it will work on you, and you on it. "Silly becomes the slave wise". How with it to be?

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Hello, falcoware, you wrote: F> If you find  more cleverly you not it will work on you, and you on it. "Silly becomes the slave wise". How with it to be? What means "more cleverly/more silly"? Under what metrics measure? The person can be eight spans in a forehead in programming, but to people it is impossible to admit it, and other. Far not everyone thinks widely and far, I do not see problems to find people with sights of the HARDWARE which yet does not think further than manually to control a small group of freelancers. And if such person outgrows the position always it is possible to invent other variants  with it, even more favor begins to bring.

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The C> That means "more cleverly/more silly"? Under what metrics measure? I  so: the person crushes under itself business and you  on street.

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Hello, copypaste, you wrote: I>> that hinders the sensible student directly to work with a stock exchange? A C> 1. Ignorance of language of a C> 2. Laziness of a C> 3. Laziness of a C> 4. Laziness of a C> 5. Laziness the Last four points will hinder it and on the uncle to work too.

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Hello, falcoware, you wrote: the C>> That means "more cleverly/more silly"? Under what metrics measure? F> I  so: the person crushes under itself business and you  on street. Well and in vain, it is not necessary to measure on itself, not all people are so ambitious. The maximum that can happens, he/she is the person leaves from you together with a command, substituting before the customer or withdrawing it to itself. And there will be it can only if  and a product is the same person.

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Hello, csero, you wrote: a C> That that it sensible in respect of programming, instead of in respect of social , for example. The present generation has more social , than employers

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Hello, copypaste, you wrote: a C> 1. Ignorance of language of a C> 2. Laziness is not joined to concept "the sensible student"

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> In far 2013 gave up operation on "uncle" and left in  (Elance, upwork, etc), the first year it is empty, the second year is better, after three years found pair of regular customers, to this day I work with them on a straight line through contracts and currency account . All is fine,  10 times more accessible to me in my region and like would live and rejoice, but the material growth is not present and to present it difficult as time in scales of days is rigidly restricted by 24 hours, i.e. time came to reflect on growth. A> that I see or I can already today: A> - to employ locally/far off one-three programmers, to pay in it the fixed part  from the + percent from the fulfilled orders which it is possible to take on the same Upwork, to increase number of "mercenaries" in case of success; A> - to use freelancers for any implementation of ideas a web / mobile/desktopnyh applications, until then while any of these projects does not shoot, i.e. as though investments; A> And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area? Hello! I am Alexander. My abstract on headhunter.ru - https://rostov.hh.ru/resume/ed9aadf3ff0 … 648565734. Already long time I try to find myself in operation not "on the uncle". Yet did not find suitable conditions. What to write? I am engaged in programming very long and different technologies. Certainly, without the earned reputation (though and on ""), you will not get anywhere. I understand it. It is ready to build the project-other free of charge or for a symbolical board (for reputation). And then - it becomes visible, I think. By the way, I have partners-programmers, two. I am engaged recently With ++ (Qt) - in programming (sound handling, operation with sets of protocols on net, usb or com to ports). They are engaged in different web technologies, Delphi-programming, operation with databases. If there is an interest, I am ready to try.

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Hello, alexgray, you wrote: A> Hello! I am Alexander. Greetings! A> already long time I try to find myself in operation not "on the uncle". Yet did not find suitable conditions. The strange logic. The person which starts to work on itself or begins the business should create suitable conditions, instead of to search for them. To search for it about hired operation. A> it is finite, without the earned reputation (though and on ""), you will not get anywhere. It not and what for to you somewhere to get, if do not want to work "on the uncle"? A> It is ready to build the project-other free of charge or for a symbolical board (for reputation). Correctly, the real professional! Neither, nor people. Well and readiness to work free of charge hints at low level of a self-estimation and . A> If there is an interest, I am ready to try. Alexander so you not "on the uncle" want to work. I advise to begin with to put thoughts in order and to find internal harmony.

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Hello, csero, you wrote: a C> Hello, alexgray, you wrote: A>> Hello! I am Alexander. A C> Greetings! A>> already long time I try to find myself in operation not "on the uncle". Yet did not find suitable conditions. A C> the Strange logic. The person which starts to work on itself or begins the business should create suitable conditions, instead of to search for them. To search for it about hired operation. A>> it is finite, without the earned reputation (though and on ""), you will not get anywhere. The C> It not and what for to you somewhere to get, if do not want to work "on the uncle"? A>> It is ready to build the project-other free of charge or for a symbolical board (for reputation). A C> it is correct, the real professional! Neither, nor people. Well and readiness to work free of charge hints at low level of a self-estimation and . A>> If there is an interest, I am ready to try. A C> Alexander so you not "on the uncle" want to work. C> I Advise to begin with to put thoughts in order and to find internal harmony I generally, addressed to anovokreschenov with a sentence to try to work). Time you consider that it was reversal to you - that it not so. By the way, I in psychological (ostensibly) conversations am not strong. And instead of talks (as though) the beautiful got used to dig simply. Thanks for your involvement! On harmony of time does not suffice, fortunately!

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Unfortunately I did not come yet to any specific decision, but most likely I will begin with investments, I will order any projects in freelancers on the same . Operation with people as the high-grade employer demands certain warranties for my part, and I yet do not see perspectives that someone to encourage since to search for orders at stock exchanges for myself - a lottery, but with the big percent on success than mass search of the same orders for job security of group of people. It is ready to build the project-other free of charge or for a symbolical board (for reputation). And then - it becomes visible, I think. If want to find operation, let even for a while never speak anything similar

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Hello, alexgray, you wrote: A> I generally, addressed to anovokreschenov with a sentence to try to work). A> Time you consider that it was reversal to you - that it not so. It is strange to expect that comments from other people will not be, as you used the message at a forum instead of PM. . The wrong choice of the tool for communications too is rather eloquent

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> Unfortunately I did not come yet to any specific decision, but most likely I will begin with investments, I will order any projects in freelancers on the same . Operation with people as the high-grade employer demands certain warranties for my part, and I yet do not see perspectives that someone to encourage since to search for orders at stock exchanges for myself - a lottery, but with the big percent on success than mass search of the same orders for job security of group of people. A> A> it is ready to build the project-other free of charge or for a symbolical board (for reputation). And then - A> it becomes visible, I think. A> if want to find operation, let even for a while never speak anything similar Thanks huge, for a good advice! And generally all - many thanks for councils, speculations and involvement! It is very valuable me! Give, My God, to all of you all most the best that in it to the world is! And - forgive me if what not so wrote!

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Hello, falcoware, you wrote: the C>> on each 3-6 fools is necessary to You one normal expert,  the signor/timlid who receives normal money and incurs all small  with your employees, i.e. puts tasks, leads , adjusts when it is necessary and  +, in an ideal, is still necessary  which interacted with the customer for you. Only so you can concentrate on higher things, instead of dig in manure with all. F> if you find  more cleverly you not it will work on you, and you on it. "Silly becomes the slave wise". How with it to be? Ingenious employees and norms work for me, not  some. I as a matter of fact simply organized process that clever people did profitable projects. I take not myself risks and sales, in exchange I get profit.

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Hello, sharpcoder, you wrote: S> ingenious employees and norms work For me, not  some. S> I as a matter of fact simply organized process that clever people did profitable projects. S> I take not myself risks and sales, in exchange I get profit. , business model the Internet of the companies of type of Google. Well with this model  both began. Also grew.