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Topic: How or where to grow?

In far 2013 gave up operation on "uncle" and left in  (Elance, upwork, etc), the first year it is empty, the second year is better, after three years found pair of regular customers, to this day I work with them on a straight line through contracts and currency account . All is fine,  10 times more accessible to me in my region and like would live and rejoice, but the material growth is not present and to present it difficult as time in scales of days is rigidly restricted by 24 hours, i.e. time came to reflect on growth. That I see or I can already today: - to employ locally/far off one-three programmers, to pay in it the fixed part  from the + percent from the fulfilled orders which it is possible to take on the same Upwork, to increase number of "mercenaries" in case of success; - to use freelancers for any implementation of ideas a web / mobile/desktopnyh applications, until then while any of these projects does not shoot, i.e. as though investments; And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area?

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Re: How or where to grow?

Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> - to employ locally/far off one-three programmers, to pay in it the fixed part  from the + percent from the fulfilled orders which it is possible to take on the same Upwork, to increase number of "mercenaries" in case of success; Even on good .. To find the useful worker -  problems. So that like find, but then it appears that all operation is done all the same by you and thus you rejoice that already though small, but the boss. A frame question rather difficult. If could find foreheads and organize process so that it gives you the positive exhaust - consider itself as the genius. A> - to use freelancers for any implementation of ideas a web / mobile/desktopnyh applications, until then while any of these projects does not shoot, i.e. as though investments; Even one high-grade to make difficult and probability of success not such high, it is less than 50 %. A> And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area? Accepted the Buddhism and understood that at me already and so much more than it is necessary

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> In far 2013 gave up operation on "uncle" and left in  (Elance, upwork, etc), the first year it is empty, the second year is better, after three years found pair of regular customers, to this day I work with them on a straight line through contracts and currency account . All is fine,  10 times more accessible to me in my region and like would live and rejoice, but the material growth is not present and to present it difficult as time in scales of days is rigidly restricted by 24 hours, i.e. time came to reflect on growth. That is on the uncle 50 , and at you 500 ?

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A>> In far 2013 gave up operation on "uncle" and left in  (Elance, upwork, etc), the first year it is empty, the second year is better, after three years found pair of regular customers, to this day I work with them on a straight line through contracts and currency account . All is fine,  10 times more accessible to me in my region and like would live and rejoice, but the material growth is not present and to present it difficult as time in scales of days is rigidly restricted by 24 hours, i.e. time came to reflect on growth. QC> that is on the uncle 50 , and at you 500 ? We do not have such digits, on the uncle will be 20-25 pure.

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A> And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area? It is necessary the  the project. That is necessary for people: 1. A porno. 2. Free games. 3. . All what to sell in an Internet does not shoot. I look as us paid cinemas  - are puffed up, puffed up, and result a zero. Ridiculously!

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> That I see or I can already today: A> - to employ locally/far off one-three programmers, to pay in it the fixed part  from the + percent from the fulfilled orders which it is possible to take on the same Upwork, to increase number of "mercenaries" in case of success; If the profile on  allows to find stablly orders, a variant of norms. Only it is not necessary the fixed parts, the customer accepted operation, received payment - transferred. Your role will be in selection of people and  them that the customer accepted operation. Without you it welcome in "the first year it is empty".

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_> If the profile on  allows to find stablly orders, a variant of norms. Only it is not necessary the fixed parts, the customer accepted operation, received payment - transferred. Your role will be in selection of people and  them that the customer accepted operation. Without you it welcome in "the first year it is empty". And what it a reason to give to it a part of money? They as start to search for the customer on

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Hello, TailWind, you wrote: TW> And what it a reason to give to it a part of money? TW> they as start to search for the customer on  All correctly, for the sane person of a reason there are no 100 % therefore I and think of the fixed part . Here approximate calculation on one employee of middle tier (above to me not to pull, and it will be not interesting to it), : - fixed  = 300$/month, it is average value in my region for ; - the person brought with  $3000 (from experience it is value quite elevating for a singleton of an average hand), to it  we add 30 % from this total, total $1300 pure, it more than perfectly in my edges; - from $1300 I will pay 30 % of payments for the employee (, , ) + 13 %  = $559 - we add $ those 300 that I produced as fixed  and we receive total expenditures = $859 - we have $3000 which the employee - 6 %  brought the simplified tax system ($180) - $859 of expenditures on the employee = $1961 in a coin box. Like norms also it is possible to scale further. For the person too it is not bad in spite of the fact that it brought as though $3000, but after all I paid for it all payments/taxes and the most important thing gave a pillow in $300 on a case of "poor harvest" month. UPD: calculation contains errors, at least in that place where I consider payments for the employee from value already "pure" , but + - $100 here do not do weather.

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A> UPD: Calculation contains errors, at least in that place where I consider payments for the employee from value already "pure" , but + - $100 here do not do weather. Take better %% we tell 20 % + 13 % the tax from each transaction. And there will be at them a motivation. The main thing to save good atmosphere and a climate in collective where all are happy and not to be greedy!

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Re: How or where to grow?

Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> we do not have such digits, on the uncle will be 20-25 pure. Anywhere in Russia is not present / the programmer 20-25. If also is, means, you simply live there where there are no IT projects, i.e. here at once it is necessary to think of moving to a city where operation is. It if to tell about operation on hiring.

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Hello, TailWind, you wrote: TW> They as start to search for the customer on  Well, find month through two first. In a month of the second

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> - fixed  = 300$/month, it is average value in my region for ; If not a secret, it where such salaries?

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Hello, Unhandled_Exception, you wrote: U_E> If not a secret, it where such salaries? The Kemerovo region, it is possible both to find in capital on 50 thousand and on 70, on area of 25 thousand it is considered good ., all brains flow away to Novosibirsk and further, there already other money. Well and besides all depends on specialization, 1s-niki  as regards incomes, but besides not.

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Hello, sharez, you wrote: A>> we do not have such digits, on the uncle will be 20-25 pure. S> anywhere in Russia is not present / the programmer 20-25. S> If also is, means, you simply live there where there are no IT projects, i.e. here at once it is necessary to think of moving to a city where operation is. It if to tell about operation on hiring. What for to it with 250 thousand to speak about operation on hiring?

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Hello, sharez, you wrote: S> Anywhere in Russia is not present / the programmer 20-25. S> If also is, means, you simply live there where there are no IT projects, i.e. here at once it is necessary to think of moving to a city where operation is. It if to tell about operation on hiring. And I also do not search for operation, I think as to expand the business. And salaries such are, not in all cities offices  the companies, is full of factories and the other organizations with workers there programmers, and regional centers with  do not contain all interested persons, it however already another story. I worked at the big enterprise as the leading programmer for 25 with all  from a finger  and extra charges. There was it in 2013, communicate with the former colleagues - that did not exchange, the chief  - 40 on hands,  department - 30, well further you understood I hope)) At the enterprise of 3000 persons,  probably the person 50 will be including communication and other administrators

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: U_E>> If not a secret, it where such salaries? A> the Kemerovo region, it is possible both to find in capital on 50 thousand and on 70, on area of 25 thousand it is considered good . Thanks! And With ++-niki how many receive on the average?

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Hello, Unhandled_Exception, you wrote: U_E> Thanks! And With ++-niki how many receive on the average? The same money, in capital 50 +, in Novokuznetsk now looked vacancy for 25-50 but we know that that this fork in the description)) means

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> - it is had $3000 which the employee - 6 %  brought the simplified tax system ($180) - $859 of expenditures on the employee = $1961 in a coin box. 200 % of net profit? Even drug dealers will envy you It is a pity that grandiose plans always break about a severe reality.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> 200 % of net profit? Even drug dealers will envy you I> It is a pity that grandiose plans always break about a severe reality. It agree, especially with last, from that and asked a public question in hope to learn on another's experience, but here probably one guerrillas

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Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> It agree, especially with last, from that and asked a public question in hope to learn on another's experience, but here probably one guerrillas of Spetsy to you to work do not go, and untalented persons of money do not bring. It is possible to simplify all - to search at stock exchanges and customers and executors. If to turn out, it will be possible to think of hired employees.

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Re: How or where to grow?

Hello, anovokreschenov, you wrote: A> In far 2013 gave up operation on "uncle" and left in  (Elance, upwork, etc), the first year it is empty, the second year is better, after three years found pair of regular customers, to this day I work with them on a straight line through contracts and currency account . All is fine,  10 times more accessible to me in my region and like would live and rejoice, but the material growth is not present and to present it difficult as time in scales of days is rigidly restricted by 24 hours, i.e. time came to reflect on growth. A> that I see or I can already today: A> - to employ locally/far off one-three programmers, to pay in it the fixed part  from the + percent from the fulfilled orders which it is possible to take on the same Upwork, to increase number of "mercenaries" in case of success; A> - to use freelancers for any implementation of ideas a web / mobile/desktopnyh applications, until then while any of these projects does not shoot, i.e. as though investments; A> And how you solved an extension problem at achievement of a physical ceiling in the area? Or to be scaled in current model, or to search for possibility to sell not development, and what or a product which certainly should be invented and made at first.

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Hello, falcoware, you wrote: F> That is necessary for people: F> 1. A porno.  add gamblings and piraMMMidy/lohotrony. But how it corresponds with your vital principles as Christian?

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I> as Spetsy to you to work do not go, and untalented persons of money do not bring. There are still sensible students at them, just, and with operation hardly

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S> Eshe add gamblings and piraMMMidy/lohotrony. But how it corresponds with your vital principles as Christian? http://www.socioguru.ru/sgurus-208-3.html the opinion rather authoritative  the thinker of blissful Avgustina is interesting: "Get rid of public maids and force of passions destroys all." So in 1033 the Pope Benedict 9 opened brothels in Rome. 15. Its Judas and  also saw it for the loose woman because it closed the person. 16. He  to it also told: I will enter to you. For did not know that it is its daughter-in-law. She told: what will you give to me if you will enter to me? (The book Life 38:15,16) 31. Which of two executed will of the father? Speak to It: the first. Jesus speaks to them: truly I say to you that  and loose women forward you go to Tsarstvo Bozhie ... (the St. Gospel from Matfeja 21:31)

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K> there are still sensible students K> at them, just, and with operation hardly There was at me one coder of 30 years. Told that I to ** ate, earned on it 100 for half a year, left in a huff and left. I all am declined that coders all . And what? Sit, hollow on the keypad - write anybody not clear code! !