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Topic: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Monday ("all is bad, life is not went right, plak-plak and so on" - a theme). Some years ago because of the collected code I spent some time and collected  a product. I added those functions which were convenient for me, but missed in representatives  a software. And as removed all lacks which hindered me. And then I went on one of subject forums and laid out a product there, more precisely, created a subject for arguing, wrote out all features and asked, whether such product is necessary to community? As a result to me told that such product is not necessary, as is already a little , plus the sea of free programs. We still then  pages on ten about my features, as a result of any interest the product did not cause. Nevertheless, I sometimes use till now it, and as required something there I add even. But, it turns out, it is all operation in desktop. It would be possible to lay out, as is, but it strongly crude on the interface and a functional part. And to waste time on  the finished type there is no sense. I often see here the same situation. Someone spreads the product on a flogging. First of all to it find a heap of paid and free analogs which already cover a functional of the given product. As a result the product appears convenient feature set, with .. The author, but absolutely unprofitable with .. Communities. Therefore at me the existential question arises, whether it is necessary generally to start to do something most if all is already written to us?

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Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> I often see here the same situation. Someone spreads the product on a flogging. First of all to it find a heap of paid and free analogs which already cover a functional of the given product. As a result the product appears convenient feature set, with .. The author, but absolutely unprofitable with .. Communities. The judgement of community has no value. The judgement of people with money matters.

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Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> And then I went on one of subject forums and laid out a product there, more precisely, created a subject for arguing, wrote out all features and asked, whether such product is necessary to community? Under a forum means not forum.ru-board.com? If is not present, probably, it makes sense to create there a subject.

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Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> Therefore at me the existential question arises, whether it is necessary generally to start to do something most if all is already written to us? Costs. Only the market to research it is necessary BEFORE starting to do something.

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Hello, Grayscaler, you wrote: G> Costs. Only the market to research it is necessary BEFORE starting to do something. It at first. And secondly, to plunge into area and to learn needs. For example, you want to make a program milking sanitary technicians - be registered at all forums of sanitary technicians, read, learn needs, ask. Instead of so - it seems to me that this pipe should be conducted here so... I will make a program.

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Hello, Lazytech, you wrote: L> Under a forum means not forum.ru-board.com? If is not present, probably, it makes sense to create there a subject. At me so  the program was untwisted. The girl at a hacker forum asked to break my program which I just created and with a scratch tried to untwist. To it very explicitly described that anything especial in this product is not present, is full of analogs free and the more so paid. But it is visible all the same met it and broke off protection, and longer time at the hacker on hands is the cracked product it the automatic machine disperses on all , etc. to sites. More shortly this program years 10 I feed. Despite set of versatile analogs. It is visible a pie enough big and the slice suffices me

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> Therefore at me the existential question arises, whether it is necessary generally to start to do something most if all is already written to us? If you can solve an existing problem better (faster, it it is more beautiful, more convenient) and if this problem is at a decent amount of people and if it is possible to reach these people yes - it is necessary to do.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> First of all to it find a heap of paid and free analogs which already cover a functional of the given product. It not argument generally . In any niche billion products and nevertheless appear new and successful.

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Stop thinking as the programmer and start to think as the businessman. A question not in the code, and not in features, a question in how you will sell it. Even inconvenient,  the product can well be on sale, if there is a demand and a competition low. To complete it then - a trick. Questions in what volume of the market? What competition? How you receive the traffic on a site? How many it will cost? How many money you receive from the client? It is possible to make a site, without completing a product, and to check up. Well or read for example Lean Startup by Eric Ries, speak, all there explicitly is stated.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Grayscaler, you wrote: G> Costs. Only the market to research it is necessary BEFORE starting to do something. A hogwash all these researches. Few times communities to me promised to tear off a product with hands and all ended . At the same time the left unfinished product at which the heap of analogs and which strongly loses in a functional to all competitors, on the sly grows.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> the Hogwash all these researches. Few times communities to me promised to tear off a product with hands and all ended . Communities happen strongly different, it too a part of researches. Well and by itself research does not give any warranties. In business always all "With probability X will be Y". What was probability, what written for a pair of clocks on knee Flappy Bird will bring 30K $ in a month? Something about zero.

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Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> As a result to me told that such product is not necessary So often speak, and it, as a rule, means nothing. Truth the market tells only. My experience says that any product has fans. CEM> therefore at me the existential question arises, whether it is necessary generally to start to do something most if all is already written to us? "What to do" it is degenerated in "nothing to do". Certainly, it is necessary to do. It is difficult, because in our character dependence on another's judgement (which, alas, not so friendly), on the one hand, is very strong, and, besides, it would be desirable to make not easier product, and .

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

CEM> Therefore at me the existential question arises, whether it is necessary generally to start to do something most if all is already written to us? It is necessary to begin... One my student-graduate  about 3 courses. Specialized on drawing programming in the diversified types... Was different operations much, but the program to which it concerned as a hand-made article for the sake of curiosity shot. Did not consider this program worthy the as the representative... Tried to open the business on sale of programs - 4 times. With different programs as which he considered as serious operations. And only on 5 times this hand-made article (as he considered) shot and is very successful. Now he already sells 4 different versions of this program And for first one and a half months 2018 lifted a half-lemon...

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Grayscaler, you wrote: G> Communities happen strongly different, it too a part of researches. Well and by itself research does not give any warranties. In business always all "With probability X will be Y". What was probability, what written for a pair of clocks on knee Flappy Bird will bring 30K $ in a month? Something about zero. Normal there was a community, some of participants there are enough celebrated personalities. People solved the task or manually, or with usage of a commercial software which had a critical lack. I suggested this lack to correct and there and then sentences fell down that it is possible to add and refine. Those who took the most active part and extolled a product merged the first. The people far from this community as a result buy. And such happens not for the first time.

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Hello, CEMb, you wrote: CEM> it would be possible to lay out, as is, but it strongly crude on the interface and a functional part. And to waste time on  the finished type there is no sense. And you take and lay out as is in a type . I and made, and further users helped with a direction of development and release of the commercial version.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> Those who took the most active part and extolled a product merged the first. I> and such happens not for the first time. At someone from classics about it was. That it is impossible to be guided by judgement of these companions.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Unhandled_Exception, you wrote: U_E> "What to do" it is degenerated in "nothing to do". It is very heavy to do over and over again "something" and to receive . But here unless only the persistence helps, that hands did not fall. Sooner or later carries, something yes shoots.

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Hello, copypaste, you wrote: ".>"something"is very heavy to do a C over and over again and to receive . But here unless only the persistence helps, that hands did not fall. Sooner or later carries, something yes shoots. Well or does not carry and the Main thing does not shoot not to despair. But study new  or learn more about business or about the world.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, rean, you wrote: R> I on your place would postpone the plans to lay out in what type you plan it to lay out and on a month two-three to disappear from a society to study recent trends in design of interfaces, UX/UI... By the way a piece of good advice.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, LaptevVV, you wrote: LVV> Now he already sells 4 different versions of this program LVV> And for first one and a half months 2018 lifted a half-lemon... If not a secret, in what type of a drawing? A web (HTML+CSS)?

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Matrix_Failure, you wrote: M_F> Well or does not carry and does not shoot Yes, unfortunately, such too can be. Not clearly only that you here found the ridiculous, the HARDWARE is explicit not to fun.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Submitter, you wrote: S> If not a secret, in what type of a drawing? A web (HTML+CSS)? About, what unexpected question

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, Matrix_Failure, you wrote: M_F> Well or does not carry and the Main thing does not shoot M_F> not to despair. The main thing to study on the errors. The business vein by nature is not at all. And at whom are, programmers become . The majority of us creators by nature, instead of shopkeepers. Inside it is necessary to raise, care and cherish the shopkeeper.

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Re: Whether [Monday] it is necessary to start to do something

Hello, copypaste, you wrote: S>> If not a secret, in what type of a drawing? A web (HTML+CSS)? A C> About, what unexpected question And you know the answer to it?