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Topic: Perspective of mastering of a Visual C ++ in environment Studio 2017

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Whether

Vova_1805 wrote:

There is any positive decision?

Study standard With ++ using compiler GCC/MinGW. Perfectly works by any machine.
Visual  only hinder process.

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Vova_1805 wrote:

it is transferred by the author from a branch "Windows"
At a certain stage interrupted Visual a C ++ in the environment of STUDIO 2010
The computer became outdated, on new there is no money to install....

Use that is.
With ++ 11 actual enough standard, just VS2010 does not pull them - take 2012-2013.
I have projects on VS2010 and I do not see technical sense them to translate on new (under licenses only).
In essence new anything there is not present in /#, and remaining bows - can be ignored
nuget only .
Though as a result decided to move on 2012 community

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Vova_1805;
Code:: Blocks .

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In particular, codeblocks-17.12mingw-nosetup.zip .

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Question from a series:
I was banged by the company Microsoft, help to find a method that it continued me to have, but thus to me it was minimum sick. Thanks.

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AlekseySQL wrote:

the Question from a series:
I was banged by the company Microsoft, help to find a method that it continued me to have, but thus to me it was minimum sick. Thanks.

And you already paid for Qt? They changed recently a policy of licensing

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Siemargl wrote:

And you already paid for Qt? They changed recently a policy of licensing

Two days ago on their site downloaded online -  and with its help delivered necessary components. So I do not think that at you the correct information.

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MasterZiv wrote:

Well and that in you so Wind rested, trained on Linux, any distribution kit undemanding find.
And in Linux all is easier with programming under a C/C ++.

+100500
When I wrote under Win a little, more than 90 % of time left on understanding that for structures accept methods and what types of fields at these structures. All searches transited in an Internet (because there are no normal books in Russian) and consequently 90 % of this information were become outdated. And that earned that in the same way at any moment could fall off.
What for for each method of Microsoft created on 1-2 specific structures which permanently changes and anywhere plainly did not describe? Programming under win, it not programming, and eternal circulation on  to sites.

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AlekseySQL wrote:

+100500
When I wrote under Win a little, more than 90 % of time left on understanding that for structures accept methods and what types of fields at these structures. All searches transited in an Internet (because there are no normal books in Russian) and consequently 90 % of this information were become outdated. And that earned that in the same way at any moment could fall off.
What for for each method of Microsoft created on 1-2 specific structures which permanently changes and anywhere plainly did not describe? Programming under win, it not programming, and eternal circulation on  to sites.

I am not the supporter of any specific platform, and generally, the practising programmer, but and here generally structures ? If you could not understand in WinAPI at present on MSDN you can find any information, concerning all data types for all WinAPI functions and  a heap of a material with examples.
Besides it is not absolutely clear that the HARDWARE meant under "Visual C mastering ++". I will dare to assume that at first it should master a classical C ++ without a binding to a specific platform, and everyones for this purpose are not necessary WinAPI. VS2010 to it quite descends as a start point. And further already its choice or to remain on , or to creep on a tench or a poppy and to master them .

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Vova_1805, here in a topic - nonsense any. Sounds as - give money for new iron to earn money.
Find. Join any development. I did not disdain imposition HTML and did rated operations on a Borland C ++
In students. And for this purpose the strong iron is not necessary.

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AlekseySQL wrote:

it is passed...
+100500
When I wrote under Win a little, more than 90 % of time left on understanding that for structures accept methods and what types of fields at these structures. All searches transited in an Internet (because there are no normal books in Russian) and consequently 90 % of this information were become outdated. And that earned that in the same way at any moment could fall off.
What for for each method of Microsoft created on 1-2 specific structures which permanently changes and anywhere plainly did not describe? Programming under win, it not programming, and eternal circulation on  to sites.

It at all that I meant. And everything that you here described, incorrectly.

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I did not google and possibilities were not. In any HIGH SCHOOL on chair it was possible to ask 4 compact discs MSDN - full  the Bible on Microsoft Visual C ++ / API e.t.c. All functions are described. As now in Windows to 10 development - I do not know
But there is an assumption that so-called "specific structures" did not change.

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Yes it at it simply children's fearfulness.
API in Win big, volume, occasionally difficult, it really frightens at first.
But anything neither difficult, nor illogical there is not present.
In Win problems others by development, it is not intended COMPLETELY NOT for developers;
GENERALLY ANYBODY NEVER THOUGHT of it.
In , on the contrary, for this purpose ALL is made, all is thought specially over to write programs,  them
And it was easy to deliver. Because if it was not,  would die for a long time, its this main property - to be easy
The collected. Entirely and in parts.

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Vova_1805;
Looked  on a site. 4 kernels of Atlon, 4  the RAM, 500  rigid, GT630 (4  video),  the monitor. 185$. You do not have such money?

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makhaon wrote:

Vova_1805;
Looked  on a site. 4 kernels of Atlon, 4  the RAM, 500  rigid, GT630 (4  video),  the monitor. 185$. You do not have such money?

I do not think that its old computer is worse than it . smile
Better then an upgrade to do: then it is possible to replace only percents + mother + (probably) storage. For the same money to receive twice more good gain of productivity.
I will repeat that it is even better to pass on Linaks and to study classical With ++ without WinAPI - perversions. The computer it will be simple to fly (I to itself of the house of Linaks on old  delivered and not : it as early as 100 can be used years).

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MasterZiv wrote:

In , on the contrary, for this purpose ALL is made, all is thought specially over that
To write programs,  and it was easy to deliver them.

Whether truth that?
There already there was the installation system, allowing not to re-record its library of the old
The version? And simply system, allowing to identify the library version differently than on
Name? Yes at least simply system of the installation, allowing not to do for each shade
the separate assembly and a separate packet? API file system ceased to consider
The file name as byte also started to consider bluntly pack leaking ? I can already install
In the directory with Russian name so that it any user could launch the program,
Including ?
Perhaps someone developed unified API for GUI?
Leaking  this simply wandering dough, shapeless and growing anywhere. It is not necessary
To mention a word "reasonableness" near to them. Perhaps as early as years through 20 they and
Crystallize in something decent, but for the last 20 years of special progress at these
Swan, cancer and a pike it is not watched.

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AlekseySQL, there are releases with  XFCE. They start by the machine with 128. A drawing - cut down
But packets should be up to date.

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I will answer in what it is precisely assured.

Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

And simply system, allowing to identify the library version differently than on
Name?

readelf... | grep SONAME

Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

Yes at least simply system of the installation, allowing not to do for each shade
the separate assembly and a separate packet?

Unless Docker all such from itself multi-shaped with inherent inheritance of images?

Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

the directory with Russian name

is a good judge.

Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

Perhaps someone developed unified API for GUI?

X11, Wayland? Atop  any desktops-managers.

Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

Leaking  this simply wandering dough, shapeless and growing anywhere. It is not necessary
To mention a word "reasonableness" near to them. Perhaps as early as years through 20 they and
Crystallize in something decent, but for the last 20 years of special progress at these
Swan, cancer and a pike it is not watched.

About dough, perhaps, I will agree, BUT... In it all and a charm of modularity of a tench that there is a main kernel under sensitive a game   Trollvaldsa and the addict of photographer Lyoni Potteringa. Over it already  a heap of different  units the kernels/assemblages ground under the purposes. In  too there is a certain authoritarianism, however, it softer, than in that product that the large corporations deliver you, which know as better for users.

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mayton wrote:

AlekseySQL, there are releases with  XFCE. They start by the machine with 128. A drawing - cut down
But packets should be up to date.

There is even less gluttonous desktop E17, eats ~35

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Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

Perhaps someone developed unified API for GUI?

On it there was no large order. If to set the task within the limits of the state (China for example or Iran) that
Linux quickly acquires unified (and even ) UI. Consulting goes.
Sales of services of integrators and technical support. Or within the limits of the big corporation (Gazprom for example).
Now unitized there is no to that-that a unification is necessary to nobody. Community
Suffers very strong  and cannot designate the accurate purpose. Numerous
do not help to be focused on something one and important.
And  it is necessary to think simply over that that he wants? To study With ++ is one. And to search for operation
On a Microsoft profile developer is another.

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NekZ wrote:

readelf... | grep SONAME

In which, suddenly, only a name, without the version. And at attempt to add in it the version (with
By all four groups) it is received amusing special effects with library loading. And in any
Case, neither rpm, nor dpk it at setting do not check.

NekZ wrote:

Unless Docker all such from itself multi-shaped with inherent inheritance
Images?

To spread the whole OS instead of application. Yes, you too are a good judge...

NekZ wrote:

X11, Wayland?

To use the protocol instead of API? I will not endure such size of hemorrhoids.

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AlekseySQL;
The strange knowledge at you in gland smile))

wrote:

houses of Linaks on old  delivered and not : it as early as 100 can be used years).

Know, misters, you, sense in perversions smile

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Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:

it is passed...
Whether truth that?

On all questions - the answer "Yes".
Well and you do not forget still that the Windows one, and are a lot of Linuxes.