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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> speech about that - that at present theoretical hindrances to it are not present. That enters into an explicit resonance with that that stated Pzz Me confused sharp races in achievable data flow rate a little: 867, 867, 867, 7000 (), 7000, 28000 (), 28000, 28000

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Hello, Lazytech, you wrote: xma>> speech about that - that at present theoretical hindrances to it are not present. That enters into an explicit resonance with that that stated Pzz L> Me confused sharp races in achievable data flow rate a little: L> 867, 867, 867, 7000 (), 7000, 28000 (), 28000, 28000 well 5G like hundreds and thousand subscribers gives gigabits - so why   not to produce 7/28  on one subscriber.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: xma>> 3) automation and robotizings (from third to) half working (in the developed countries), in 15-20 years M> So-called automation in practice appears an operation rearrangement on the client. M> the automated cash registers in shops? The buyer executes operation of the seller, but for some reason received advantage is put in a pocket by the master of shop. Brad any. The self-service cash register allows to quit shop much faster as they can be delivered strongly more than sellers. Similarly with cash dispenses and the airports.

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: S>> That is from revolutionary and possible for implementation (even periods name)? Here that was recalled: S>> 1. Controlled thermonuclear synthesis. A C> On the way. But always on the way, but never comes. S>> 3. The quantum computer. A C> this year demonstration quantum supremacy is planned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U_SmKyfGI&t=354

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Gene modification of people. The mankind promptly grows dull and if not to start to do artificially people more cleverly through pair generations level of technologies in "the first world" gives to level "3 worlds". Hopes of China with Japan are not present, at them the fundamental science simply is not present - a mentality singularity, Africans from a palm tree  could not, the South America - .

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> That is from revolutionary and possible for implementation (even periods name)? Here that was recalled: the Bosh all is the main thing: - Termination of wars and violence differently remaining can and not to be.

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Hello, SergeyIT, you wrote: SIT> differently the remaining can and not to be. Rather the reverse - there are more than wars and == it is better than violence technologies and medicine?

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Hello, SergeyIT, you wrote: SIT> Bosh all is the main thing: SIT> - Termination of wars and violence SIT> differently remaining can and not to be. War is not dangerous. An aggression gene on sufficient  possess only English-saxophones. Russian and Chineses a misfortune are not capable - to be protected or got involved only in small conflicts. Russian even after defeat did not punish Germany - after all could destroy. And English-saxophones use war always adjustable, only until while it it is favourable. Recall at whom colonies worldwide there were also all understand.

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> because derived stores on the Earth come to an end. Stores of what exactly come to an end?

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: M>> the Automated cash registers in shops? The buyer executes operation of the seller, but for some reason received advantage is put in a pocket by the master of shop. A C> Brad any. The self-service cash register allows to quit shop much faster as they can be delivered strongly more than sellers. Similarly with cash dispenses and the airports. So they reptiles (owners of shops) not only / save cashiers, but also the area of shops. Well and them it is necessary much more - the cashier copes with operation much faster the buyer.

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Hello, kov_serg, you wrote: S>>> That is from revolutionary and possible for implementation (even periods name)? Here that was recalled: S>>> 1. Controlled thermonuclear synthesis. A C>> On the way. _> but always on the way, but never comes. Tri-Alpha Energy . Basically, whether next year probably it will be is final clear on their technology - under plans to reach sufficient parameters for dejterij-tritievogo synthesis. S>>> 3. The quantum computer. A C>> this year demonstration quantum supremacy is planned. _> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U_SmKyfGI&t=354 That is? To machine learning it has no relation any. The quantum computer has some applications with which it is impossible to replace with anything else. In particular, simulation of other quantum systems, such as simulation of structure of fibers or search of catalysts.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> That is from revolutionary and possible for implementation (even periods name)? Here that was recalled: S> 1. Controlled thermonuclear synthesis. S> 2. Artificial intelligence / artificial consciousness. S> 3. The quantum computer. S> 4. A victory over a cancer. S> 5. Immortality/prolongation of life in times. S> 6. The Colony/settlement on the Moon/marse. S> that else? And anything without a thing it the nature and the Universe exists already how many millions years? If not eternity. And how many  years - the person? If  bodies it was necessary, it would be put at once in the person both will exist. Also no computers and AI are necessary to it. The Universe knows better you. Also knows it is so much, how many you never learn.

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Hello, mizuchi, you wrote: M> both will exist. Also no computers and AI are necessary to it. So. It is possible to exist both without the person and without its aspiration to knowledge. M> the Universe knows better you. Also knows it is so much, how many you never learn. And you did not think, what the observer is necessary to the Universe and what through on It as though looks at Itself in a mirror? Also that all moves in a direction of knowledge and this vector manages to be changed to nobody, it is possible unless to decelerate.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: xma>> because derived stores on the Earth come to an end. P> Stores of what exactly come to an end? Mineral resources - including metals/ores etc.

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S> So. It is possible to exist both without the person and without its aspiration to knowledge. The knowledge is necessary not simply so and to increase chances of a survival at change of conditions of environment. You know as to colonize , you will survive, even if the Earth perishes, do not know, will perish together with the Earth.

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L>> I was confused a little with sharp races in achievable data flow rate: L>> 867, 867, 867, 7000 (), 7000, 28000 (), 28000, 28000 xma> well 5G like hundreds and thousand subscribers gives gigabits - so why   not to produce 7/28  on one subscriber. 867Mbps phy rate is that now in phones everywhere costs. 80Mhz the channel, 2 spatial streams. In access point it is normal already 4SS, i.e. twice above. And generally it is a utopia. And as Pzz Shannon nobody already told cancelled. We for example do now these 7Gbps phy rate, but it works only in the conditions of close to the ideal. Hardly what not and  falls. And generally wifi similar started to move towards the best operation when density of devices high and they hinder each other, and it is less than attempts to increase bare .

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Iskustvennyj AI - all that is necessary. We now in a primitive phase. As people of the Stone Age. Our feeble mind needs to be strengthened the intellectual tool. It is AI.

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> Iskustvennyj of AI - all that is necessary. We now in a primitive phase. As people of the Stone Age. Our feeble mind needs to be strengthened the intellectual tool. It is AI. But then what for we will be necessary?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: G>> Iskustvennyj of AI - all that is necessary. We now in a primitive phase. As people of the Stone Age. Our feeble mind needs to be strengthened the intellectual tool. It is AI. S> but then what for we will be necessary? For setting of tasks.

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Hello, mizuchi, you wrote: M> if  bodies it was necessary, it is put at once in the person to Whom it would be necessary? M> both will exist. Also no computers and AI are necessary to it. M> the Universe knows better you. Also knows it is so much, how many you never learn. And at it brains are? Where, in what galaxy?

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Hello, anonymouse2, you wrote: S>> But then what for we will be necessary? A> for setting of tasks. Who you told that AI with it does not consult independently and from what he would listen to us?

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Hello, Cyberax, you wrote: S>>>> 1. Controlled thermonuclear synthesis. A C>>> On the way. _>> but always on the way, but never comes. A C> Tri-Alpha Energy . Basically, whether next year probably it will be is final clear on their technology - under plans to reach sufficient parameters for dejterij-tritievogo synthesis. Already  time showed that always slightly something does not suffice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYmchl4ZGM S>>>> 3. The quantum computer. A C>>> this year demonstration quantum supremacy is planned. _>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U_SmKyfGI&t=354 a C> That is? To machine learning it has no relation any. Precisely. Even nearby did not lie. The C> At the quantum computer is some applications with which it is impossible to replace with anything else. In particular, simulation of other quantum systems, such as simulation of structure of fibers or search of catalysts. While they successfully solve only one task - engaging of investments. To any another it is not shown.

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> 1) 2 nm CPU|GPGPU to 2030' further everyone || etc. xma> if I will recall  still - I will add. And yes, well and as consequence  technical processes - implement ray tracing, further it is possible and path tracing., dynamic global lighting etc. And finally - achievement of cinema quality of rendering in games. On quality is not worse than "Reflections Real-Time Ray Tracing Demo | Project Spotlight | Unreal Engine" http://rsdn.org/forum/education/7089972?tree=tree the Author: xma Date: 22.03 15:27 basically this demo can already master (in 2019-2020) and  7 nm  (if it is very optimistical, but on 5 nm - already precisely should depart, is possible even on the future mass products of a class "GTX1060". Further it should be tightened and physics, type such (now 2 FPS on GTX970) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80vKqJSAmIc that one such flag to calculate in 60 FPS - it is necessary 100 TFlops well or such, https://youtu.be/9Zyqp7Yme6g? t=5

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Hello, Alexander Kuznetsov, you wrote: > 7. Repeated (in tens times) increase of density of storage of energy in drives. At once the heap of possibilities in other areas appears, from  gadgets and effective electromobiles to the force armor and the portable beam weapon. Couples to me somehow  to carry a gadget in which density of storable energy it will be equivalent 4. Can ???

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Hello, kov_serg, you wrote: a C>> Tri-Alpha Energy . Basically, whether next year probably it will be is final clear on their technology - under plans to reach sufficient parameters for dejterij-tritievogo synthesis. _> already  time showed that always slightly something does not suffice. _> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYmchl4ZGM I there the investor so reports I see. With each iteration they increase parameters of machines that is confirmed by the independent third party. The following generation already will be capable to set fire dejterij-tritievuju to plasma though the design of the machine not so approaches for such usage. After that there will be a last step - a proton-boric synthesis. The C>> At the quantum computer is some applications with which it is impossible to replace with anything else. In particular, simulation of other quantum systems, such as simulation of structure of fibers or search of catalysts. _> while they successfully solve only one task - engaging of investments. To any another it is not shown. This year there will be a demonstration quantum supremacy. If to increase number  to 200 (in 3 times from planned 70-kubitnogo the computer) it already will be enough for exact simulation of an addition of many fibers.