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Joss wrote:

How to Select problem domain?

You break so that on this place there was a separate PRIMARY section. Further - to taste. Or simply you do not use it (and you do not appropriate a letter), or stupidly you delete (well there will be not labeled space on a disk - and ), or any disk editor change section type for something that Windows does not understand, but is afraid to touch (I normally I do 65h).

Joss wrote:

60 Gig - problem domain

So all the same - in what problematical character of this area precisely consists? Well , well long reading (a commonplace at reading  sectors)... It is strewed? Creeps away? If is not present - to see, you banged it in an operating time, happens... And here if  - that has to be changed, and the more likely, the better for the shit catcher there in banks, of course, is, but without a warranty, the crumb flies away, gets under a head - and everything, three days of a diarrhea and sudden death.

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Joss wrote:

Well, the tool to me prompted, the approximate algorithm is clear.
1. I create a disk or a flash card with Acronics and I am loaded from it.
2. I create on a disk additional section
3. I transfer there the information from primary partition.
4. I change the size of the first section that it  did not cling problem domain.
5. I change the size and position of the second section that it did not reach problem domain
Here the pair of questions was drew.
How to Select problem domain?
Not to include it in one of logical disks

1. Yes, truly. I will specify - the task that the problem domain would get to boundary space between sections.
This space remains not labeled.
Complexities here in other:
1) Where this zone of a problem is allocated. If "is blurred" on all disk then at all a variant something to do, here only one task - to pull out the data.
2) If the zone is localized, how it is far it is allocated from the disk beginning.
2.1. If somewhere in the beginning, it makes sense to start to label from it, let even space we lose.
2.2. If on any reasonable distance before it we create section and behind it we create section in between  area (empty, not labeled).
Generally, in the editor of a disk it is all it is visible, and if you already ran utilities, that, is probable these places are marked and, hence, the same Acronics not begins to use them. It is possible for a control shot, before all manipulations to use the standard utility windows for disk check.
In general that all. If the data really important, I is puzzled in the beginning with their safety. Above already made comments on this moment.

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About a disk I already wrote.
From 0 to 400  a good zone, from 400 to 460  a problem zone, from 460 up to the end - a good zone.
The information is stored not that that super important, but it is very desirable to save it.
Books, the documentation, own development, archive of programs. I will try to get a disk for the period of experiments and to merge the information on it.

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Joss wrote:

it is passed...
It is clear that it is better to replace a disk. But a floor of year back I produced disk changeover. And somehow  it to change again. And with the finance now

Matter is not in the finance. If the disk already started to be strewed, the risk of that it  all is great. Also that transfer the data that is not present - I pound a little.
Further, it is necessary  to do. Even free cloudy storages with restricted space with it consult.
Well also I do not know, how there in Minsk with a warranty on accessories. It seems to me, a floor of year - quite warranty case.

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Arm79 wrote:

If the disk already started to be strewed, the risk of that it  all is great. Also that transfer the data that is not present - I pound a little.

IMHO
As I understand, if there was "problem domain" the area for  sectors was already filled. .. Really it not 50-60 of "problem sectors", and COMPLETELY hammered area for  + in addition 50-60 Mb the problem
P.S. I can be mistaken. Mechanics of operation and algorithms of the modern disks I represent .

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Leonid Kudryavtsev wrote:

as I understand, if there was "problem domain" the area for  sectors was already filled.

Well it is generally optional...

Leonid Kudryavtsev wrote:

COMPLETELY hammered area for

So it not such and big, this area. At the best mbyte 30, and it is normal much less...

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Leonid Kudryavtsev wrote:

IMHO
As I understand, if there was "problem domain" the area for  sectors was already filled. .. Really it not 50-60 of "problem sectors", and COMPLETELY hammered area for  + in addition 50-60 Mb the problem
P.S. I can be mistaken. Mechanics of operation and algorithms of the modern disks I represent .

Not absolutely so.  BAD units.
I can is not exact described a situation? Problem units about only 100, but they sit in area in size with 60 GiG. To this area and after it problems it is not watched. Probably there was a push on the computer in an operating time. On it not only I work.

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Joss;
Yes lose you these of 70 hectare and  that, to good life. Simply to hold on mind that the jamb is.

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I simply do not want, that in this area something registered necessary. Here also I want to eliminate them from usage.

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Joss wrote:

I simply do not want, that in this area something registered necessary. Here also I want to eliminate them from usage.

If correctly I understand, it is possible so to estimate: you know number of a beaten cluster. One cluster 4 .  one on another also you will receive the approximate size of the first section, subtract 1-2 Gb just in case.
PS If for  there is no screw it is possible to ask for friends on loan. Without  it is dangerous to do such things.