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Topic: Search of music and social networks

I already wrote that would like to invent a method easily to find on the Internet good films, music, etc. Here there is a problem "Law of Stardzhona": to find a good content, it is necessary to digest mass of the bad. In the theory independent juries which for us estimate quality of a content could solve this problem. But this approach yet does not work, as as I consider, people with the perverted tastes have the strong motivation to enter such juries and to impose the tastes to another. For this reason Oscars, Eurovision and similar projects degrade. I stated one candidate solution of this problem in this article: it is necessary to select casual sampling of citizens and to ask them to grade for money to a film or music. Such project is rather difficult for implementing. The second approach can be easier. I created group VK "Search of good music ": https://vk.com/club165849379 Idea of group that it should be community as a forum working in a mode "Question-answer". In arguings each participant can create a subject, enumerating at least 6 songs of any executor which are pleasant to it; other participants should it answer, writing titles of other songs so that their songs were inscribed in the initial playlist of the author of a subject, were not worse than level of this playlist from the point of view of the author of a subject. If the author of a subject finds songs which to it laid out, improper - he can complain of the answered participant (i.e. the author of a subject is as though allocated  with powers). Such approach can quite work on rsdn: so, earlier thus to me here prompted new songs Nautilusov the Author: Khimik Date: 18.06.14 Kalinova of the Bridge the Author: Khimik Date: 27.10.15. In group I gave advertizing and now there 5000 persons and though in the core it is bots, should be though how many not-boats. But in arguings practically nobody writes. While the project did not fly up. I think, a problem in that that for the majority of people in  is unusual to communicate in such format (arguings in group). Everyone is afraid that if it something there writes, it will look the outsider. It is necessary to me that any minimum quantity of posts in arguings was typed, and further, maybe, all new people will be involved in it. I want to be spent for advertizing, and I face a choice, for it is necessary what to pay. Perhaps, I should find groups VK where many people communicate in arguings, in a forum format, and to give advertizing in these groups. The request to prompt such groups VK. Still to me suggested to pay to people that they for money wrote posts in arguings (75 for a post), but it is not assured that it is the correct idea. I want to ask rsdn to enter my group and to write something; if my project flies up, all see that new methods of fast search of good music and films are possible.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> I already wrote that would like to invent a method easily to find on the Internet good films, music, etc. Here there is a problem "Law of Stardzhona": to find a good content, it is necessary to digest mass of the bad. 1. You put  and . Or that there still from similar is. 2. You buy-smotrish-slushaesh.  that . 3. In due course in "it is pleasant to you" start to come  which really are pleasant. 4.... 5. BINGO

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: - - playlists from the point of view of the author of a subject. If the author of a subject finds songs which to it laid out, improper - he can complain of the answered participant (i.e. the author of a subject is as though allocated you define with terms . And that the same song is pleasant today to me - tomorrow bothered, and  to hear it I do not want.

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Hello, Sheridan, you wrote: S> 1. You put  and . Or that there still from similar is. S> 2. You Buy-smotrish-slushaesh.  that . S> 3. In due course in "it is pleasant to you" start to come  which really are pleasant. S> 4.... S> 5. BINGO I do not trust in all these  for such tasks. I am assured that my group VK if she earns, will be better.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> I already wrote that would like to invent a method easily to find on the Internet good films, music, etc. Here there is a problem "Law of Stardzhona": to find a good content, it is necessary to digest mass of the bad. Here all works differently, and is connected to life, is is specific yours. Any search algorithm to find it does not turn out, because life - dynamics. Films, music, and all remaining, as though come to the necessary moments. Only it is necessary to be able to perceive hints, articles, someone's reviews where something can be mentioned interesting, the scent in due course will be worked out. Especially, to search by a "similarity" principle, it is subjective. For example, I show to the girl a film the Fountain, and she speaks - abruptly, it was pleasant to me, I know similar - the Perfumer. Well also that... Hardly mastered this rubbish, from my point of view it is delirium, and similar it is not enough, I am simple differently I estimate and I see on the other hand everything, than it, and someone can be still in another way. And about digestion of mass of bad, I want to tell that the bad film is visible in the first 5 - 10, sometimes a maximum of 30 minutes. As they say, to understand that  it is not worn out, not mandatory to eat it completely. Also it is possible to ungear simply,  to consume a garbage?

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S> 1. You put  and . Or that there still from similar is. S> 2. You Buy-smotrish-slushaesh.  that . S> 3. In due course in "it is pleasant to you" start to come  which really are pleasant. S> 4.... S> 5. BINGO I already put to myself .. I am assured that operation of all these algorithms conducts only to that the principle "Imushchemu amplifies arrives, and that it had" will be taken away from the deprived also. I.e. known music becomes even more known (irrespective of quality), and little-known even less known (too irrespective of quality). Especially, if in these services work , likely their developers cannot tell, for what principle of a network select a content to users - prompt rather qualitative content or rather known. I want to ask those who is signed on . or : There is here someone who thanking these services learned about such executors, how Grimes, Kaleida, Artisdir, Cults, Lana Del Rey, Monetochka, ssshhhiiittt? Personally to me . anything from this did not prompt, but prompted  .

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Hello, Lepsik, you wrote: L> you define with terms . L> And that the same song is pleasant today to me - tomorrow bothered, and  to hear it I do not want. The best method to begin to hate a favourite song - to deliver it on an alarm clock.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> I Want to ask those who is signed on . or : there is here someone who thanking these services learned about such executors, how Grimes, Kaleida, Artisdir, Cults, Lana Del Rey, Monetochka, ssshhhiiittt? From everything that you enumerated, I know only Lana Del Rey, but learned to a subscription on . History such. At first patriotically subscribed on  music and approximately 3 months tried to bring  on the preferences. On a course, put this useless, and, can, they too strongly advance  tracks - I do not know. But after the next council of Russian  the subscription has been cancelled. Queue  came. Here fitting algorithms as it seems to me, work better. But the problem "cookings in own juice" all the same remains. That is, if at you in the playlist it is a lot of fate-n-rola it is mandatory advises it to you. But I want a pop-music too, and electronics too I want. As a result it is necessary to interfere periodically roughly and manually to make playlists. After that even the button "" starts to produce everyone interesting and that is pleasant. From the latest discoveries - electro swing.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> I already wrote that would like to invent a method easily to find on the Internet good films, music, etc. Here there is a problem "Law of Stardzhona": to find a good content, it is necessary to digest mass of the bad. What is good and bad? At all different tastes. That that is good to you to someone badly, and on the contrary. So setting of the task the incorrect. And true - such. There is a N-dimensional space of tastes, in which each measurement - certain simple enough characteristic (or a combination of characteristics) music or a film. Each person has a certain dial-up of criteria of that that is pleasant to it and that is not present, that is a dial-up from N coefficients from-1 to +1 where-1 means absolute aversion, and +1 absolute delight. It is necessary to find in this N-dimensional space of adherents, that is people at which this dial-up of coefficients would be as much as possible close to yours.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: S>> 1. You put  and . Or that there still from similar is. S>> 2. You Buy-smotrish-slushaesh.  that . S>> 3. In due course in "it is pleasant to you" start to come  which really are pleasant. S>> 4.... S>> 5. BINGO K> I do not trust in all these  for such tasks. I am assured that my group VK if she earns, will be better. While you do not trust, I already use.

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Hello, MaxRos, you wrote: MR> From the latest discoveries - electro swing. It is possible links to pair songs from electro swing which are pleasant to you? And what else  there are genres of the modern music? That I enumerated that is art pop in the west, ssshhhiiittt it seems Russian , about Monetochku I do not know as the genre is called. I think, it is necessary to search   for appropriate genres.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: S>> 1. You put  and . Or that there still from similar is. S>> 2. You Buy-smotrish-slushaesh.  that . S>> 3. In due course in "it is pleasant to you" start to come  which really are pleasant. S>> 4.... S>> 5. BINGO K> I already put to myself .. K> I am assured that operation of all these algorithms conducts only to that the principle "Imushchemu amplifies arrives, and that it had" will be taken away from the deprived also. I.e. known music becomes even more known (irrespective of quality), and little-known even less known (too irrespective of quality). How global ratings concern personal interests? Correctly, they consist of personal interests. You confused the reason with a consequence, . K> Especially if in these services work , likely their developers cannot tell, for what principle of a network select a content to users - prompt rather qualitative content or rather known. K> I want to ask those who is signed on . or : there is here someone who thanking these services learned about such executors, how Grimes, Kaleida, Artisdir, Cults, Lana Del Rey, Monetochka, ssshhhiiittt? . Any executor I do not know from those which I listen. To tell the truth I do not look at all as them call. It was pleasant - . It was not pleasant - . And not on an album and on a composition. Now quite to myself simply I include "radio" (autoselection) and you know, quite apprx. K> Personally to me . anything from this did not prompt, but prompted  . I do not use , I can tell nothing about it.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Hello, MaxRos, you wrote: MR>> From the latest discoveries - electro swing. K> It is possible links to pair songs from electro swing which are pleasant to you? The first that comes and mind - Parov Stelar. Pair of links: the link the link But  is a lot of, I even on reddit found the channel. K> and what else  there are genres of the modern music? In genres especially not . But recalled one more source of the new. Looked  the channel academeg, there the person seriously approaches to music selection. For example discovered there group Kaleo (link). Under each video there is a list of tracks. It concerns many  channels.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> the participant can create a subject, enumerating at least 6 songs of any executor which are pleasant to it; other participants should it answer, writing titles of other songs so that their songs were inscribed in the initial playlist of the author of a subject And how it helps to solve an initial problem? It is easy to find in the Internet good films, music Never after all quickly. And it is yet authentic and it is not reliable. And even theoretically can work only for a small range of tastes. What the main audience  there listens? A pop-music, fate, a rap?

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Hello, Sheridan, you wrote: S>> Guglomuzyka. Any executor I do not know from those which I listen. To tell the truth I do not look at all as them call. It was pleasant - . It was not pleasant - . And not on an album and on a composition. S>> now quite to myself simply I include "radio" (autoselection) and you know, quite apprx. K> Here now give I will show some links, you listen to them and tell, 1) whether like you this music, 2) whether you heard before these executors. A subjective opinion:  three - norms Lana Del Rey - it is matchless) two last -  are secondary and is not present, it not because they in Russian

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Hello, Khimik. K> I am assured that operation of all these algorithms conducts only to that the principle "Imushchemu amplifies arrives, and that it had" will be taken away from the deprived also. I.e. known music becomes even more known (irrespective of quality), and little-known even less known (too irrespective of quality). No. YouTube (on the right there the column) shows (me) products different, including absolutely little-known composers (Witt, Baermann, Rietz, Eybler, Lefevre, Eichner, Fetis), sredne-known (Kozeluch, Crusell, Hoffmeister, Krommer) and known (Bach, Haydn, Mozart) which 1) approach on style of that I there in the main window listen (type); 2) it are pleasant to me. Not all, of course, but - is quite enough for a dial-up in the list of the further listening.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Hello, Sheridan, you wrote: S>> Guglomuzyka. Any executor I do not know from those which I listen. To tell the truth I do not look at all as them call. It was pleasant - . It was not pleasant - . And not on an album and on a composition. S>> now quite to myself simply I include "radio" (an autoselection) and you know, quite apprx. K> Here now give I will show some links, you listen to them and tell, 1) whether like you this music, 2) whether you heard before these executors. 1. Yes, it is quite good 2. I do not know. Not in that sense that heard or did not hear. I normally music in a background include also consciousness on it is disconnected only when it ceases to be pleasant or on the contrary,  . Remaining simply a background plays. I will tell so: probably heard.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> their developers cannot tell, for what principle of a network select a content to users There  to what. Most likely, all is banal and is simple. We admit, you like songs A, B, a C, D, E, you added them to yourselves in the playlist. We look 1000 more users at whom these songs in the playlist, we look, what else songs most often meet at them and is recommended them to you. All. K> I want to ask those who is signed on . or : there is here someone who thanking these services learned about such executors, how Grimes, Kaleida, Artisdir, Cults, Lana Del Rey, Monetochka, ssshhhiiittt? Lana Del Rey I remember on film Great Gatsby. About remaining I and now do not know. Pandora/Spotify quite successfully prompted some executors who very much were pleasant to me. So more or less this approach works. Speak, Yandex. Music prompts is even better, but in ours  it is not accessible.

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K> In arguings each participant can create a subject, enumerating at least 6 songs of any executor which are pleasant to it; And how then to find that that to me it is pleasant in this dustbin? https://youtu.be/UkSiywrWG3A

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K>> the participant can create a subject, enumerating at least 6 songs of any executor which are pleasant to it; other participants should it answer, writing titles of other songs so that their songs were inscribed in the initial playlist of the author of subject AK> And how it helps to solve an initial problem? The idea that each participant, creating a subject, will suggest to pick up music which should be pleasant to it. If to it will spread unsuccessful (from its point of view) music, he can complain of those who spread, and participants receiving many complaints will be . I.e. it is supposed that in group will be protected from  by a rigid moderation, including group led by participants. AK> and it is yet authentic and it is not reliable. And even theoretically can work only for a small range of tastes. What the main audience  there listens? A pop-music, fate, a rap? There all tastes are presented, obviously. At least if the group is big enough.