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Topic: Dependence from GPL

Prompt on GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE. I take the project under GPL the license, I modify it and I use it as a part service online. Dependence: Online Service--> GPL the project. To spread source codes of all service online it is not required? I Am sorry if the similar subject already rose, I simply did not find.

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Re: Dependence from GPL

At least it should be accessible  the code with your changes

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R> at least it should be accessible  the code with your changes even if the code is fulfilled on the server?

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implies that all that changes under this license? That changes should be accessible is public but. If nobody knows that you there at yourselves in    the code which changed for yourselves that certainly it is possible for nobody to speak and mow  bales or to plunder  silently

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R>  implies that all that changes under this license? That changes should be accessible is public Are not present. She demands to give access possibility to source codes to the receiver of the compiled program. No more that. R> but. If nobody knows that you there at yourselves in    the code which changed for yourselves R> that certainly it is possible for nobody to speak and mow  bales or to plunder  silently If the program is transferred to nobody, it can be changed as your soul it is necessary and not to give access to these changes to anybody.

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> to the Baire the project under GPL the license, I modify it and I use it as a part service online. C0x> dependence: Online Service--> GPL the project. To spread source codes of all service online it is not required? No, it is not required. For this reason  so .

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Re: Dependence from GPL

Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> Prompt on GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE. C0x> to the Baire the project under GPL the license, I modify it and I use it as a part service online. C0x> dependence: Online Service--> GPL the project. To spread source codes of all service online it is not required? https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.ht … leasedMods (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.ru … leasedMods)

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If it  aha and if it is a part a muzzle web which opens all and everyone? Well as the web of a muzzle, service which sticks out ears outside and everyone who uses this service it turns out downloads it

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R> well as a web of a muzzle, service which sticks out ears outside R> and everyone who uses this service it turns out downloads it Here therefore from the very beginning and asked - the code is fulfilled on the server? Concerning the code loaded with the web page and the user executable in the browser I will tell nothing, not . P.S. The user receives this code, if it can be considered on GPL as obtaining, not in the compiled type (normally) means, even if this code under GPL (and as it in life happens, not my sphere of interests) in addition anything it is not necessary to give, I here so understand.

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Re: Dependence from GPL

For this reason  so . The thought course correct, but is not present  because the code (at least its part) is executed not by the machine of the user, with following from this a control level over this code.

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> to Spread source codes of all service online it is not required? No, it is not required, 100 %. Whether criterion is you spread * *, which derived from GPL the code.

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Re: Dependence from GPL

Hello, wantus, you wrote: W> Is not present, it is not required, 100 %. Whether W> Criterion is you spread * *, which derived from GPL the code. And if that under GPL I just also distribute that as clients. But imported modifications to the client that they worked under control of my server. In this case the server code needs to be spread or enough only GPL the client to lay out?

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: whether W>> Criterion is you spread * *, which derived from GPL the code. C0x> and if that under GPL I just also distribute that as clients. But imported modifications to the client that they worked under control of my server. In this case the server code needs to be spread or enough only GPL the client to lay out? It is necessary to spread source codes of that is fulfilled on the computer of the user. That you distribute. It is not necessary to spread source codes of that is fulfilled on your server. Has no value, "under control" or as still it communicates. Important only where the code is fulfilled. The user  to have possibility to change the code executable on its computer. On the code executable on your server, the user because of GPL does not receive any rights.

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Re: Dependence from GPL

That is in me put a minus for that that I told too most, only words it is less

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R> that is me put a minus for that that I told too most, only words it is less> at least I should be accessible  the code with your changes not , but anyway it not the answer to my initial question. That that, something to spread in  it is necessary to me and so it was clear, not clear was just, whether it is necessary to spread still something from the project if in it dependence on GPL the unit which I change sticks out and I spread anyway.

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> And if that under GPL I just also distribute that as clients. But imported modifications to the client that they worked under control of my server. In this case the server code needs to be spread or enough only GPL the client to lay out? No, the server - it is not necessary.

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R> that is me put a minus for that that I told too most, only words less One of minuses - mine because you told far not too most: R>  the code with your changes vs A> the User  at least should be accessible to have possibility to change the code executable on its computer.

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If my answer to tear off from a subject yes, it not one and too but my answer was on a question, and that that in online service will explicitly is the code which to be fulfilled on user side for me obviously

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> to the Baire the project under GPL the license, I modify it and I use it as a part service online. C0x> dependence: Online Service--> GPL the project. To spread source codes of all service online it is not required? For the sake of such cases has been invented AGPL - GNU Affero General Public License. In which contains that the users interacting with the program on a network, should have possibility to receive source codes. In other words, at the scenario when the user through the browser uses a certain web service and  on the Web server side it is not spread in any way, then: If the code from the project under AGPL it is necessary to spread source codes  this service is taken. If in  the code under GPL it is not required to spread any source codes was used.

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Hello,/aka/, you wrote: A> It is necessary to spread source codes of that is fulfilled on the computer of the user. That you distribute. And if roughly telling GPL application it is launched by the machine of the user with usage of my separate application (Launcher.exe) with the necessary parameters source codes  mandatory to spread? Both like as by the machine of the user.

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Hello, C0x, you wrote: C0x> Hello,/aka/, you wrote: A>> It is necessary to spread source codes of that is fulfilled on the computer of the user. That you distribute. C0x> and if roughly speaking GPL application it is launched by the machine of the user with usage of my separate application (Launcher.exe) with the necessary parameters source codes  mandatory to spread? C0x> both like as by the machine of the user. Yes, it is necessary. In  with GPL this launcher is considered derived work because if to remove GPL application launcher becomes useless.

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Hello, reversecode, you wrote: R> and that that in online service will explicitly is the code which to be fulfilled on user side for me obviously GPL does not use the term service or online service.

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Hello, wantus, you wrote: A>>> It is necessary to spread source codes of that is fulfilled on the computer of the user. That you distribute. C0x>> and if roughly speaking GPL application it is launched by the machine of the user with usage of my separate application (Launcher.exe) with the necessary parameters source codes  mandatory to spread? C0x>> both like as by the machine of the user. W> yes, it is necessary. In  with GPL this launcher is considered derived work because if to remove GPL application launcher becomes useless. In practice to avoid  GPL , it is possible not to include simply it in the distribution kit, and we tell to download at setting. In the installer the button "Download components" which stupidly downloads archive with necessary GPL-tulzami becomes. As I understand it is equated to actions of the user. Type the user delivered launcher.exe, and (!) To it in a folder supposed GPL . After all from it at the author   does not appear, truly? Disclaimer: I not the lawyer, but saw the similar circuit repeatedly in any PDF-printers which  on Ghost Script.

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Hello, the Black Lord, you wrote: > In practice to avoid  GPL , it is possible not to include simply it in the distribution kit, and we tell to download at setting. In the installer the button "Download components" which stupidly downloads archive with necessary GPL-tulzami becomes. So it for very simple reason - GPL does not demand any public "", she demands provision of source codes of the program by all to a clod its binary files, at the moment of transmission or on the first request are transferred, and this transmission can quite be private, simply it is impossible to forbid the further transmission to the third parties, though private, though the public. And public "" it only one of methods to observe the license requirement. But certainly but certainly that name "" GPL licenses it does not cure.

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Hello, the Black Lord, you wrote: > As I understand it is equated to actions of the user. Type the user delivered launcher.exe, and itself (!) to it in a folder supposed GPL . After all from it at the author   does not appear, truly? > Disclaimer: I not the lawyer, but saw the similar circuit repeatedly in any PDF-printers which  on Ghost Script. Oh this  with GPLv2 and GPLv3 in population heads! Eleven years already lasts.