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Topic: Rating of programming languages from IEEE

At us here the question of various ratings of programming languages periodically floats. And more often the answer to it is TIOBE (https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/). However here time and again there was a criticism of this rating (truth doubtful since the criticizing did not offer normally anything in exchange - simply it did not like digits and all). Therefore I suggest to consider one more rating from decent - from IEEE (https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/intera … uages-2018). Personally to me it is pleasant to that there there is a sharing and on types of languages (and that is strange enough to analyze a competition of the Assembler with PHP or R) and as a rating (trends, workplaces etc., etc. - it is possible even to specify the personal dial-up of parameters with scales).

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> Personally to me it is pleasant to that there there is a sharing and on types of languages (and that is strange enough to analyze a competition of the Assembler with PHP or R) and as a rating (trends, workplaces etc., etc. - it is possible even to specify the personal dial-up of parameters with scales). I will check in all these ratings only when to me show at least one live C programmer.

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> However here time and again there was a criticism of this rating (truth doubtful since the criticizing did not offer normally anything in exchange - simply it did not like digits and all) Is not present sense to explain, why the happiness is not measured by money, and a rating - "mentions in Google". You will become the professional of programming - then itself you will understand, for now you from "" nearby left. _> one rating from decent - from IEEE (https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/intera … uages-2018). Than it "decent"? At me here: <Error> <Code> AccessDenied </Code> <Message> Access Denied </Message> <RequestId> 2D54DCFF28C1163A </RequestId> <HostId> zQdfLrw = </HostId> </Error>

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It is interesting that the Python is in the lead. And that the Python not  for , though for a web - very much even.

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Hello, IT, you wrote: IT> I will check in all these ratings only when to me show at least one live C programmer. All mine team for example.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, IT, you wrote: _>> Personally to me it is pleasant to that there there is a sharing and on types of languages (and that is strange enough to analyze a competition of the Assembler with PHP or R) and as a rating (trends, workplaces etc., etc. - it is possible even to specify the personal dial-up of parameters with scales). IT> I will check in all these ratings only when to me show at least one live C programmer. You here here really seriously wrote it?) )) Well it is fine, we assume such and  a little: - first of all (therefore as it is not simple so was added, and there is the whole ideological basis) we recall Linusa of a Torvalds. Well also it is naturally added to it all remained horde  kernels-writers. Which by the way concern for example also all vendors the smart phone/tablets and chips for them since write appropriate drivers for Androida. Etc., etc. - further we consider 3/4 all industries of a spelling of insertions for microcontrollers (it now consider each electronic device round you) - here the people simply rather inert and only gradually starts to master a C ++. - after such huge pieces IT of the world it is possible to pass already to pointwise points. For example we take writers of set of popular libraries on a C, type OpenSSL and .. - further it is possible to walk on creators to popular products on a C, the same type Nginx (heard about there is nobody Igor Sysoyev? It quite to itself the live C programmer), etc. It here that straight off came to a head. And that described only a small part of this huge world.

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Hello, Kolesiki, you wrote: _>> However here time and again there was a criticism of this rating (truth doubtful since the criticizing did not offer normally anything in exchange - simply it did not like digits and all) K> Is not present sense to explain, why the happiness is not measured by money, and a rating - "mentions in Google". You will become the professional of programming - then itself you will understand, for now you from "" nearby left. Well so if you know as the correct rating sound it should look.) _>> one rating from decent - from IEEE (https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/intera … uages-2018). K> Than it "decent"? At me here: K> <Error> K> <Code> AccessDenied </Code> K> <Message> Access Denied </Message> K><RequestId>2D54DCFF28C1163A</RequestId> K> <HostId> K> zQdfLrw = K> </HostId> K> </Error> it is amusing that you similar clicked the link from mail mailing (where there was an incorrect reference), but thus answering the letter, quoted absolutely other link (already corrected). It besides that you answer the message without reading all discussion in a subject. It is rather characteristic.)))

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> Personally to me it is pleasant to that there there is a sharing and on types of languages interesting as at them quitted that  is in embedded, and  is not present. And as a whole it is quite good, probably. To see surprising R so it is high, truth.

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Hello, D. Mon, you wrote: DM> And as a whole it is quite good, probably. To see surprising R so it is high, truth. I think it soon C# bypasses.

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _>... (https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/intera … uages-2018). Whether expression usage "eyes on an ass" is admissible in comments in section ? Is not present? Well it is fine, then I will not be. Where, actually, 1? People generally in course, what on our guilty ball are a huge piece of territory with approximately 200 million inhabitants where this piece is without restraint popular? That is Githabu sense morally prepares to what during some moment can break through a dam (I I mean an output in wide usage 1S EDT), and to them the wide flow of the code written ridiculous Cyrillic  rushes? What StackOverflow - not a unique place on the Internet where developers hang out? Well that is Forth, not representing for anybody any interest except academic, is, and development means round which it is actively twisted live multi-billion (well and that that in roubles) an IT market piece as does not exist at all. The research led among schoolgirls of Catholic boarding schools for girls showed that knowledge cases by heart  from the Koran is not watched to Children it is necessary to work seriously over formation techniques .

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: IT>> I will check in all these ratings only when to me show at least one live C programmer. CC> All mine team for example. It wanted to you temperature  and to ask "the Brother, you in course, what more advanced languages exist already somewhere approximately years 30-35?"

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> Therefore I suggest to consider one more rating from decent - from IEEE (https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/intera … uages-2018). It in which With on a level with With ++? To a campaign they again  wrote down all both there and there because there often write "/ ++".

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> - after such huge pieces IT of the world it is possible to pass already to pointwise points. Huge!!! Linux and one hundred more outcasts is well directly a piece, yes,  IT! By the way, from this hundred it one on  or remaining is earned by money for life in other languages, and the C is used only for the fan? By the way, really, in these percent how many the C is used professionally, every day and it is more than anything? Well or at least as the main language for an earning on life? I here couple of days ago interviewed one. At it to the abstract it is written: ASP.NET MVC 4.5 - expert a C ++ - good a C - good This  confused the version  and a product. I think that the C it can once be and saw nearby, most likely labs in  on it did. You such too include in the statistics? I, by the way, too in the abstract have C/C ++, I too in this statistics? As to about "each electronic device round you" I am not assured that in each such device sits on the programmer of a C. Something prompts to me, what even the code on a C can be reused. Set of popular libraries it generally about what. Let's count these libraries (only popular, instead of all course and labs of jellies on ) and we increase it on 3. Well it is fine, let on 5. At least one hundred programmers will be typed? And now for comparing. I do not have statisticans on my current office, but was on previous. IT department Morgan Stanley makes the order of 9 thousand persons. From them 3  it is administrators and , 3  and 3  and  it SQL and JavaScript. I think  10, i.e. the person 600 writes on any miscellaneous, including a C. I.e. one office - 3   and 3  . Because . And such offices in NuYorke tens. Therefore at me a question. Children how you receive such statistics?

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Hello, IT, you wrote: IT> It wanted to you temperature  and to ask "the Brother, you in course, what more advanced languages exist already somewhere approximately years 30-35?" The brother, all these "advanced" languages  suck in our data domain.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, IT, you wrote: IT> Huge!!! Linux and one hundred more outcasts is well directly a piece, yes,  IT! To you does not come to mind that you look at the world from the belltower and its huge part simply do not see? IT> by the way, from this hundred it one on  or remaining is earned by money for life in other languages, and the C is used only for the fan? At me With professional, With ++ for the fan. Everyone  for scripts. IT> by the way, really, in these percent how many the C is used professionally, every day and it is more than anything? Well or at least as the main language for an earning on life? Our Sshniki earn it on life and as that are not offended financially.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, Voblin, you wrote: V> Where, actually, 1? V> there is a huge piece of territory with approximately 200 million inhabitants where this piece is without restraint popular? ? How many the person from these 200 inhabitants generally 1 the code in eyes saw? How many from them want to communicate with this code? V> children need to work seriously over formation techniques . And how you suggest them to catch 1 that them to ask about preferences?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: All these ratings - a garbage.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, D. Mon, you wrote: _>> Personally to me it is pleasant to that there there is a sharing and on types of languages DM> it is interesting, as at them quitted that  is in embedded, and  is not present. Yes, for Rust' it is directly profile area so it is strange that did not include it there. Though it it is finite still very young and hardly it already started to use professionally - area very conservative and still even a C ++ did not master generally. And here enthusiasts are played for a long time already, even here directly at our forum already was. As to Haskelja then I generally very strongly was surprised since never about the such heard. At once got to look and really found certain attempts https://hackage.haskell.org/packages/#cat:Hardware developments in channelized. However it is a trifle even against already written under Rust so I here precisely would remove a tick with embedded. DM> And as a whole it is quite good, probably. To see surprising R so it is high, truth. I think that it is the last jerk before leaving on the pension, caused by rapid development of platform Jupyter and the general interest to analytics / to machine training/data mining and other kaggle. But in due course the Python for certain successfully finishes the mission on occupation of niche R.

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Hello, IT, you wrote: _>> - after such huge pieces IT of the world it is possible to pass already to pointwise points. IT> huge!!! Linux and one hundred more outcasts is well directly a piece, yes,  IT! IT> By the way, from this hundred it one on  or remaining is earned by money for life in other languages, and the C is used only for the fan? By the way, really, in these percent how many the C is used professionally, every day and it is more than anything? Well or at least as the main language for an earning on life? https://www2.thelinuxfoundation.org/lin … eport-2016 - one hundred outcasts you speak?) )) IT> This  confused the version  and a product. I think that the C it can once be and saw nearby, most likely labs in  on it did. You such too include in the statistics? I, by the way, too in the abstract have C/C ++, I too in this statistics? If we speak about statistics which I suggested to consider you can there in pair  include/switch off the registration of vacancies. And switching-on of the registration of vacancies refines just a rating of such languages as Java, etc., instead of a C. IT> as to about "each electronic device round you" I am not assured that in each such device sits on the programmer of a C. Something prompts to me, what even the code on a C can be reused. , in many devices also not one microcontroller. We tell in their modern car generally tens (they there permanently communicate among themselves and with the computer host on an onboard network) different - at everyone the insertion. IT> Set of popular libraries it generally about what. Let's count these libraries (only popular, instead of all course and labs of jellies on ) and we increase it on 3. Well it is fine, let on 5. At least one hundred programmers will be typed? You here seriously think, what libraries of type OpenSSL or FFmpeg or GTK are written by 3-5 programmers?) There in everyone more than hundred will be: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/graphs/contributors https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/graphs/contributors https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/graphs/contributors It so, for an example simply, first Cs which have come to mind purely of library took. And generally their huge number. IT> and now for comparing. I do not have statisticans on my current office, but was on previous. IT department Morgan Stanley makes the order of 9 thousand persons. From them 3  it is administrators and , 3  and 3  and  it SQL and JavaScript. I think  10, i.e. the person 600 writes on any miscellaneous, including a C. I.e. one office - 3   and 3  . Because . And such offices in NuYorke tens. Well so and in any  the companies there will be exactly reverse proportion. Also what, at once to do an output, what Java/C# it is not used anywhere?))) is not present? And why you then generalize the small world on all industry?) )) IT> Therefore at me a question. Children how you receive such statistics? If you were not too lazy to understand, would see that under the considered link you can personally specify the primary sources of the data necessary to you and weight factors for them.

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: IT>> It wanted to you temperature  and to ask "the Brother, you in course, what more advanced languages exist already somewhere approximately years 30-35?" CC> the Brother, all these "advanced" languages  suck in our data domain. The brother, I very mistrustful person. Very much, very much. Thus if I normally trust people, here to their hand-made articles well in any way. Therefore, when I many years ago passed from a C to a C ++ led many tests and experiments, prepared a heap of the generated code about a generation difference one compiler of the same code written on a C and a C ++. And so - differences I did not note. Everything that you do on a C it is possible to write absolutely easy on a C ++. Besides, the code amount where productivity really is required, normally does not exceed 10-15 % from the code of all system. Actually I still very strongly uprate it, is simple that you not to offend. And if to understand, the majority qualitative  is reached by architecture and algorithms, instead of squeezing of bits from bytes.

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: CC> to You does not come to mind that you look at the world from the belltower and its huge part simply do not see? , it to the full concerns and you. Nevertheless it would be desirable to receive the answer to a question - you in the statistics considered a C/C ++ in my abstract?

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Hello, IT, you wrote: IT> Therefore when I many years ago passed from a C to a C ++ led many tests and experiments, prepared a heap of the generated code about a generation difference one compiler of the same code written on a C and a C ++. And so - differences I did not note. Well, if under "more advanced languages" you meant pluses then I simply incorrectly understood you. I too differently will prefer to write on With ++ than on S.No here a trouble - *nix kernel all on With and a C ++ there besides that in panic are afraid so also all interested person put sticks in wheels. Well and other languages are simply inapplicable basically. IT> Everything that you do on a C it is possible to write absolutely easy on a C ++. Yes, moreover, in Windows kernel I also did it. The result by the way was remarkable.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> there there is a whole ideological basis _> a horde  kernels-writers _> - after such huge pieces IT of the world _> sets of popular libraries _> a small part of this huge world. Reminded https://youtu.be/tWK8behbSn0? t=5m4s... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: CC> Shchito? How many the person from these 200 inhabitants generally 1 the code in eyes saw? CC> how many from them want to communicate with this code? And how many the person from 328M inhabitants of the USA generally in eyes saw the code on Haskele? How many from them want to communicate with this code? An excuse not . V>> Children need to work seriously over formation techniques . CC> And how you suggest them to catch 1 that them to ask about preferences? Was called as a milk mushroom -  in a body. Undertook to make world rating  - if you please invent how to have representative sampling. Instead of you can invent - go and not  audience the hack-work.