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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Our young man   goes on nearest "radio market" K> a radio market it precisely 2018? K> K> response of the market to an agony retail  did not keep itself waiting: today the functional alternative and completely a free software with the open code frequently not simply corresponds, but also exceeds a functional of the untwisted commercial decisions. A unique hindrance on a way of the full extrusion of paid programs - certain complexities at setting and adjustment of a free software, however it is possible not to doubt that in the near future this lack will be eliminated, and then commercial software  turns to memory. K> the last phrase seems to me both absurd, and not clear (as it is connected to a penultimate phrase). Now  it is put the Windows are not easier almost. Thus the software lags behind from commercial and is rather noticeable, but in the core at professional grade. And software "purchase" generally passed to subscription model. The author wrote from the past.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> the Last phrase seems to me both absurd, and not clear (as it is connected to a penultimate phrase). Normal . And incompetent in a subject, writing to confidence that the reader same. And it not only about the last and penultimate phrases. The author not Latynina? Or there all such...

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> And not competent of a subject, writing to confidence that the reader same. So 95 % of readers such, if not 99 %.  the programmer, should understand.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Normal . And not competent of a subject, writing to confidence that the reader same. P> and it not only about the last and penultimate phrases. P> the author not Latynina? Or there all such... No, but reputation to the New Newspaper forms the unattractive. If also remaining materials there the same level...

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Hello, V. Zudin, you wrote: SVZ> If also remaining materials there the same level..., By the way, in this respect the Jellyfish sometimes surprises Me. Titles and the abstract in the beginning of articles in the same way always politically engaged, but the content of articles happens quite suitable and competent, and sometimes even conflicting to title.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Normal . And incompetent in a subject, writing to confidence that the reader same. P> and it not only about the last and penultimate phrases. P> the author not Latynina? Or there all such... Well I apologize for  and in what the author was specific was mistaken? Yandex  does not become megacorporation?

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> Well I apologize for  and in what the author was specific was mistaken? Here, for example, In 2012 Russia accessed to WTO. Somebody noted though any change in relations to intellectual property in the country at practical level? That is the author not in course also did not note that changes happened all 2000 before accession to WTO, including because of desire to access to WTO, and that number diligence of the state and its law enforcement bodies.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P>, by the way, in this respect the Jellyfish sometimes surprises Me. Titles and the abstract in the beginning of articles in the same way always politically engaged, but the content of articles happens quite suitable and competent, and sometimes even conflicting to title. Happens so authors of a material do not influence that as their works are announced by the letting out editor.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Here, for example, P> P> In 2012 Russia accessed to WTO. Somebody noted though any change in relations to intellectual property in the country at practical level? P> that is the author not in course also did not note that changes happened all 2000 before accession to WTO, including because of desire to access to WTO, and that number diligence of the state and its law enforcement bodies. At practical level As I understand, at us schoolboys at first study on a piracy software, and only then when arrive to work on firm, to them give a license software. Unless not so? How still can be in our country won ?)

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> As I understand, at us schoolboys at first study on a piracy software, and only then when arrive to work on firm, to them give a license software. Unless not so? How still can be in our country won ?) Schoolboys from the end 90 study or on a free software, or on educational licenses.  the cunning companies hold for a long time educational centers in profile high schools. In general the author of article is a little (to be exact, absolutely) the wrong does outputs.

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Hello, V. Zudin, you wrote: SVZ> Schoolboys from the end 90 study or on a free software, or on educational licenses.  the cunning companies hold for a long time educational centers in profile high schools. SVZ> in general the author of article is a little (to be exact, absolutely) the wrong does outputs. And at us many profile high schools where teach for example 3D-modeling?

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: SVZ>> Schoolboys from the end 90 study or on a free software, or on educational licenses.  the cunning companies hold for a long time educational centers in profile high schools. SVZ>> in general the author of article is a little (to be exact, absolutely) the wrong does outputs. K> and at us many profile high schools where teach for example 3D-modeling? Looking that at you it is considered "3D-modeling". Construction? Architecture? Animation? Or knowledge separately the taken software? For example, electronics construction in Peter is, at least, in Bonche and in Leti. Will be to you and SolidWorks, and Autocad, and the Compass, and electronic . The author of article  in the main thing: tries to present availability  a software as competitive advantage of our students. At least years 20 it not so. And that, earlier it simply equalized chances. At us in programmers go, including, because the potential salary much above, than on the average on the country. As they say, is for what to struggle. And in America to construction of electronics and in programmers do not hasten to go, because it is ordinary engineering specialities with the average income and a hemorrhoids above an average.

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K> As consequence in Russia almost completely there is a market software  K> As to sparse Russian software  (ABBYY, Kaspersky, Elcomsoft) it practically is entirely oriented on the foreign market where there is a kind tradition of the program to buy instead of to steal.  . Looked the author -  Golubzditsky. You   in a forum dragged.... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> the Author not Latynina? Or there all such... Golubzditsky. That still the prattler.... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P>, by the way, in this respect the Jellyfish sometimes surprises Me. Titles and the abstract in the beginning of articles in the same way always politically engaged, but the content of articles happens quite suitable and competent, and sometimes even conflicting to title. So it is a schizophrenia

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: NANOSECOND> Zvezdobolus . NANOSECOND> Looked the author -  Golubzditsky. You   in a forum dragged. , it still potters about!

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: P>>, by the way, in this respect the Jellyfish sometimes surprises Me. Titles and the abstract in the beginning of articles in the same way always politically engaged, but the content of articles happens quite suitable and competent, and sometimes even conflicting to title. Ops> so it is a schizophrenia Not, it is old kind method to push the necessary context through a censorship slingshot. Censors, they too only read titles.... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: SVZ>> At us in programmers go, including, because the potential salary much above, than on the average on the country. As they say, is for what to struggle. Those> In the Russian Federation  - . It is not necessary to compare to average on hospital for the she more low, the  feels herself  against a population impoverishment. The same about the USA, the same processes. But in Australia it seems the programmer is the king of all parties and actually a star of Hollywood, yes the Subject?... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: the NANOSECOND> Not, is old kind method to push the necessary context through a censorship slingshot. Censors, they too only read titles. And what for it to push there, whether other platforms are not present that?

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Hello, Khimik, you wrote: K>... In a unique world outlook singularity of the Russian person perceiving any product, connected to knowledge and formation, it is exceptional as public property. K> an ethical estimation of this paradox I vainly try to work out for myself And what here "unethical"?? Even today "sharks of business" give  discounts educational . And to students. Other question that it all the same notable money! Especially, if you still "search for yourself" and cannot "try" ten programs on one hundred dollars everyone. In this plan I generally consider $10 - as much as possible admissible price. As students - any  10 + already in a state  3 "try" still far not a scene - why not? Well and where SUCH schoolboy takes "symbolical" $200 for what-nt 3D Max? Silly... People at first should give the chance a choice, especially in the world of the mrazej-billionaires leaving millions of the population without chances to quit "upward". As same  when grows, gives you the potential buyer! (Personally or through the company) POTBOILERS whom desperately  the  *** but on presentations, and in real operation their software appears below a plinth (that beginners can understand even) Are afraid such "". K> the Positive aspect of this legal lawlessness: in the country it is permanently formed, stimulated and the army gains in strength unprecedented on number and professionalism is computer competent youth. K> about the same situation it is possible to watch in India and China. ??? , you say lies-say lies, yes not ! NEVER  and  were not to us competitors! Their quality below a plinth also is all it is known. Except you, . K> As consequence in Russia almost completely there is a market software  As consequence of WHAT? What "steal"? You are a small fry, ! Take deeper: because live in penury under  dictatorship. Yes bring mine   10 dollars, whether it is necessary to me ""??? Got on a site, downloaded SAP R/3, paid a card - study to ! K> Now the most important (and unexpected): how the situation which has added in the Russian market IT affects the further development of branch? My deepest belief: perspectives are uncovered the most iridescent. Well, for infantile boys who yet did not put out a nose from under a mum's skirt, I will explain: Russia slides in **  on the oblique." Oblique "means ANY perspective" casually "to be rolled out upward. The policy"  "for 16 years perfectly revealed all - we sell while is what to sell. Sheep we skin alive, without hoping at all that"  ". Came to the most feeble and humiliated - PENSIONERS. So the boy," iridescent "in Russia is foreseen nothing. Your computers, 3D-prinery, routers and other electrofeatures lose any meaning when in the country it is banal there will be nothing to eat. All these defaults and cards were only feeble hint that can happen to the country if it incessantly to milk and rob. K> a functional of computer programs, what only are capable to interest nonprofessional (that is - retail) audience, reached the limit Categorically do not agree about 10-15 years ago. Give me ANY software and I will find a minimum of tens things which could be made better. Because I am a professional + I know all intrigues of such development:" Somehow ","  "and so descends","the user - not the king, can and click once again", etc. Potential - huge, is simple it difficultly to push, since the majority of a plankton is chewed that by distances and they do not HAVE direct influence on developers!" To vote rouble "? Do not make laugh my disk drive! It in a stub not at ***  your copecks, the ten more suckers comes and buys! Your voice - peep of a bug against iridescent reports of department of marketing. K> response of the market to an agony retail  did not keep itself waiting: today the functional alternative and completely a free software with the open code frequently not simply corresponds, but also exceeds a functional of the untwisted commercial decisions. ... A companion in a cap! You in 1917 froze? Yours about-kommunjachi" not simply corresponds, but also exceeds "we listened to 80 years and know, the FULL LIES."Free"it was never better. Not because is"free", that is why that money - criterion of selection of PROFESSIONALS. If you are ready to work"", 99.9999 % you -   which and not especially appreciates the work. And who will appreciate it, if you do not appreciate it?? What your level - is that also your exhaust. Who designs the program better - the pro spending for it of 8 hours daily, having plan and qualification, or "the boy with knowledge With ++" which after "With ++ for 7 days" is ready to write though AI? On my computer is hardly probable 5 truly FOSS programs which or are primitive and consequently satisfy, or to me simply to search for laziness  to the best software. It is not necessary to confuse teenage  "a microsoftware ,  " to trade realities! K> a unique hindrance on a way of the full extrusion of paid programs.... Ha-ha-ha!!!! And so to what it all this tirade!!) here the clown! Reminds Blacks - "give  all white because at all of them is". Well you will kill "paid programs"... You as then will live, ?! To play passage in the morning, and to model the next clone vim' in the evening?) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))) the Fuck-up....  knows no limit! K>... However it is possible not to doubt that in the near future this lack will be eliminated, and then... To You already explained - not on a Communist Party meeting! And not to Brezhnev you report - it is not necessary it  and unreasonable optimism. For 25 years   at a desktop - the PC still "" and any teapot did not deliver NOTHING to itself "linux only" and was happy. To bury  (even now, at full  "" and  as a whole) I would not become - I still will reliably sit on 7-ke, even considering that ** made new processors Win10 only. That - only on itself spoiled in a pocket! Clap and smell the next 5 years! Good  it turned out at Golubitsky - all fan brown is direct!

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> And what for it to push there, whether other platforms are not present that? Why is not present?... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, Kolesiki, you wrote: K> Well and where SUCH schoolboy takes "symbolical" $200 for what-nt 3D Max? https://www.autodesk.com/products/3ds-max/free-trial K> Shta??? , you say lies-say lies, yes not ! NEVER  and  were not to us competitors! Their quality below a plinth also is all it is known. And it is possible to take an interest in an example of your superqualitative operation? Well to understand about what speech. K> yes bring mine   10 dollars, whether it is necessary to me ""??? Got on a site, downloaded SAP R/3, paid a card - study to ! Bring to you  10 , you at all would not began to program.... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>