Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> well so Lenin there was a representative of ruling class - with it it was impossible to address on another. Aha, ruling class. Here the citation from Wikipedia: Vladimir Ilich Ulyanov was born in 1870 in Simbirsk (nowadays Ulyanovsk), in a family of the inspector of national schools of Simbirsk province of Ilya Nikolaevicha Ulyanov (1831-1886), - the son of the former serf of village Androsovo of Sergachsky district of the Nizhniy Novgorod province Nikolay Ulyanov (a variant of a spelling of a surname: ), married to Anna Smirnovoj - daughters of the Astrakhan petty bourgeois (under the version of the Soviet writer M.S.Shaginjan happening from a sort of Kalmyks). Mother - Maria Aleksandrovna Ulyanov (nee the Form, 1835-1916), a Swedish-German origin on mother and, under different versions, an Ukrainian, German or Jewish - on the father. Vladimir's grandfather on mother was, on one of versions, the Jew who has accepted Orthodoxy, Alexander Dmitrievich Blank. Under other version, it happened from a family of the German colonists invited to Russia by Catherine II). DH> and here is how addressed with cattle: DH> at survey of recruits in army in 1914 it was clarified that 40 % of all recruits had on themselves flogging traces On-first, give references, please, that it was possible to check up that we do not consider fakes. Secondly, what means "flogging traces"? If we speak about recruits most likely it is young men, most likely peasants. That I admit that children . There can be their fathers, can be at schools, can be for any crimes (here, by the way, the interesting notice on this subject). It is less probable that them the landowner on a stable. DH> and then suddenly this cattle, is not clear why, arranged red terror and banged By the way cattle of these people you name. And here, by the way, how addressed with in more extremal conditions. I think that at the Soviet power them would shoot without any sentimentality.