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Topic: Shortly about communism, about that who the cleverest and about a special way

Article of day: Pensioners from Europe - experience a difference http://www.siapress.ru/blogs/80508

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xma> Article of day: Pensioners from Europe - experience a difference I  I hear as textbooks of methodics rustled

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> Image: 2018_07_26_015109.jpg xma> Article of day: Pensioners from Europe - experience a difference xma> http://www.siapress.ru/blogs/80508 xma> In Switzerland and the remaining countries in roubles pension? Again? All from one textbook of methodics? Here in Canada the potato, for example in 45 times is more expensive, than in Russia costs in roubles.

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Hello, Muxa, you wrote: xma>> Article of day: Pensioners from Europe - experience difference M> I  I hear as textbooks of methodics  rustled, so you where would prefer to live on average pension - in Switzerland (or at least Greece) or in the Russian Federation? And if there was no available a hut and it should to remove? Almost 100 years  - and now again "a special way"

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At what here communism?

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Hello, Maniacal, you wrote: M> In Switzerland and the remaining countries in roubles pension? Again? All from one textbook of methodics? Yes all from one - the common sense is called. But at Muscovites the reality. M> Here in Canada the potato, for example in 45 times is more expensive, than in Russia costs in roubles. Canada, Supermarket Urbanfare the Young potato 93 RUB = 2.1 CAD http://www.globalprice.info/?p=kanada/cenu-v-kanade

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Hello, Dair, you wrote: D> At what here communism? And it not from for communism you consider in the Russian Federation low salaries and pensions? (In comparison with the developed countries, in particular the Western Europe)

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Hello, xma, you wrote: D>> At what here communism? xma> and it not from for communism you consider in the Russian Federation low salaries and pensions? (In comparison with the developed countries, in particular the Western Europe) We consider that because of capitalism. At a pension socialism in the USSR there were 132 roubles (of that time).

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Hello, xma, you wrote: D>> At what here communism? xma> and it not from for communism you consider in the Russian Federation low salaries and pensions? (In comparison with the developed countries, in particular the Western Europe) Is not present, I consider, what not because of communism. How generally communism as the theoretical public and economic system based on social equality, public property on means of production can influence salaries?

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Hello, xma, you wrote: M>> Here in Canada the potato, for example in 45 times is more expensive, than in Russia costs in roubles. xma> Canada, Supermarket Urbanfare xma> xma> the Young potato 93 RUB = 2.1 CAD Probably the price for a photo from Canada was for 10 kg. So not in 45 times, and in 4.5 times.

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xma> , so you where would prefer to live on average pension - in Switzerland (or at least Greece) or in the Russian Federation? And if there was no available a hut and it should to remove? In  normal pension = (_ - ___) * ___ * __ pension () / pension () = (81 - 65) * 12 * 120173 / ((72,5 - 60) * 12 * 13300) = 23073216 / 1995000 = ~11,5 letters: twenty three million against two millions; but at them a climate, clearly.

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Hello, Dair, you wrote: D> Is not present, I consider, what not because of communism. D> as generally communism as the theoretical public and economic system based on social equality, public property on means of production can influence salaries? The USSR too only theoretically existed on yours? To return all backwards?

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> the USSR too only theoretically existed on yours? To return all backwards? I will remind, the USSR does not exist already almost 30 years and the communism did not exist never

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: xma>> and it not from for communism you consider in the Russian Federation low salaries and pensions? (In comparison with the developed countries, in particular the Western Europe) A> We consider that because of capitalism. At a pension socialism in the USSR there were 132 roubles (of that time). Maximum, and average in late (1985) RSFSR - 72 roubles and at collective farmers of pension were both on 12  and on 28 . If on  (e.g. at factory) you will receive physical inability - pension 12 . In shops a full-sphere drive.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: xma>> the USSR too only theoretically existed on yours? To return all backwards? > I will remind, the USSR does not exist already almost 30 years and what?  now and  still will be the whole centuries. > and the communism did not exist never yes to sneeze everything, - the fact that the society structure created by forces communists naming - was  and hindered with country development. And as it was called deeply to spit.

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Hello, xma, you wrote: D>> As generally communism as the theoretical public and economic system based on social equality, public property on means of production can influence salaries? xma> the USSR too only theoretically existed on yours? To return all backwards? In SS  there was a socialism. It would be necessary to return some things, yes.

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Hello, Dair, you wrote: xma>> the USSR too only theoretically existed on yours? To return all backwards? D> In SS  there was a socialism. In the USSR built communism - news to you, yes? D> it would be necessary to return Some things, yes. What?

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> If in this table to add a column how many in these countries people work in hours from the moment of appearance at work (well there to take the conditional 20 years) and to pension, becomes suddenly absolutely sad - will be clarified that there where upon (in hours) work less, receive more.

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> yes to sneeze everything, - the fact that the society structure created by forces communists naming - was  and hindered with country development. And as it was called deeply to spit. Well with development during the USSR it was somehow better, than the last 30 years, are not present? Than it is possible ? 30 sorts of sausage? (How many % of people can envelop from these 30 at least half - to nobody interesting.) 30 % have  passports? The bridge? That reached?

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Hello, susumanin, you wrote: xma>> yes to sneeze everything, - the fact that the society structure created by forces communists naming - was  and hindered with country development. And as it was called deeply to spit. S> Well with development during the USSR it was somehow better, than the last 30 years, are not present? In Poland that? In Czechia? Slovakia? Slovenia? In GDR? In Lithuania? Latvia? Estonia? Etc. GDP per capita, PPP (constant 2005 international $) http://qps.ru/bYxPz S> Than it is possible ? 30 sorts of sausage? (How many % of people can envelop from these 30 at least half - to nobody interesting.) S> 30 % have  passports? S> the bridge? S> that reached? Who? Those who continued to yelp on the West - those of anything and did not reach and who used the opened perspectives - those increased the  gross national product (PPP) - in times. Also live now better that who them ostensibly fed and developed, i.e. Russia.

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Hello, xma, you wrote: D>> In SS  there was a socialism. xma> in the USSR built communism - news to you, yes? So did not construct. If constructed - it could be guilty in something. And so in what? D>> it would be necessary to return Some things, yes. xma> what? The prohibition of a private property of means of production, certainly.

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> We consider that because of capitalism. At a pension socialism in the USSR there were 132 roubles (of that time). At whom it is such pension was? At pensioners of allied value?

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Hello, xma, you wrote: xma> in Poland that? In Czechia? Slovakia? Slovenia? In GDR? In Lithuania? Latvia? Estonia? Etc. We consider possibility of development within the limits of a socialism only in convenient to you  or something another? What for you resulted this schedule of Post-Soviet growth of gross national product? xma> who? Those who continued to yelp on the West - those of anything and did not reach and who used the opened perspectives - those increased the  gross national product (PPP) - in times. Also live now better that who them ostensibly fed and developed, i.e. Russia. At whom in times? From your schedule it is visible that rates of increase at all identical, plus-minus, launching sites and different consequences of crisis 2008 differ only

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Hello, Dair, you wrote: xma>> in the USSR built communism - news to you, yes? D> So did not construct. If constructed - it could be guilty in something. D> and so in what? In that that those neighbors which did not build it, and built capitalism - live in times better (and even on orders) D>>> it would be necessary to return Some things, yes. xma>> what? D> the prohibition of a private property of means of production, certainly. .  - and again to get under West sanctions? This time it is final. And the apartment remained from the grandmother is means of production? And bought on  the salary? And the taxi driver by the machine? And the private farmer? - To return collective farms? And the IT too can be wrung out business? And a computer at the freelancer - too means of production? - Too to wring out? And factory of the cook  and ?  and potato crumbs? Private business too to forbid? How in the USSR? And to put on again in galoshes we will and drink ? And boundaries too again to close? For all import goods?