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Topic: On what there live orthodox fathers

Here I in native settlement have as though a church (at the time of the USSR in that building there was a restaurant). Once a week it makes service. It is clear that His wife is not enough for residing and four children sales of icons and candles. Your hypotheses, on what they live... Then I will sound incomes known to me, he lives through the house from my parents.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> your hypotheses, on what they live... At night  sites on ?

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> your hypotheses, on what they live... Money for wedding, burial service, a christening and for remaining on a trifle takes. Still gather local businessmen who will be bought on their talks about a faith.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> your hypotheses, on what they live... Weddings, christenings, burial services. But it is not assured that frequency of events for settlement covers needs. It was by the way remembered on funeral of the relative, the father is most decent itself moved. Arrived on a cemetery by the machine (old  small), led a ceremony, took the modest earlier stipulated total. In comparison with mortuary and funeral bureau which frankly stirred up  and tried to make profit on a maximum.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Here I in native settlement have as though a church (at the time of the USSR in that building there was a restaurant). Once a week it makes service. It is clear that His wife is not enough for residing and four children sales of icons and candles M>. I have such acquaintance: the wife, four children. Makes services extremely rarely. Works as the programming engineer (not in church), earns well approximately as all of us, on it and lives. My former colleague.

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M> your hypotheses, on what they live... It "the quasinot state" funds transfer money?

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M> your hypotheses, on what they live... The acquaintance got acquainted with the priest. Went to it in a manor to thump even repeatedly. Tells the house smart. In each room on plasma. Well and furniture the corresponding. Got to talking with it on this subject. Speaks, well and  machine to consecrate still everyone  address. Happens that simply half-hour on action  without any rituals, and  20 drips

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> your hypotheses, on what they live... The Overwhelming majority of the former convicts are devout and willingly great sums sacrifice.... <<RSDN@Home 1.3.17 alpha 5 rev. 62>>

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Hello, msorc, you wrote: M>> your hypotheses, on what they live... M> Weddings, christenings, burial services. M> but it is not assured that frequency of events for settlement covers needs. Weddings are not claimed. Christenings are. About burial services too very little to whom it is necessary. Crosses gravestone wooden in "church" on sale are In general of known sources of incomes -  two cows, sell milk and derivatives. And the mother - the tutor in an English way. Here so - both cows is able to milk and to English learns, a rare combination at present.

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D> Works as the programming engineer (not in church), earns well approximately as all of us, on it and lives. My former colleague. I know one person at it similar history, only more pathos. It works as the top-manager in one of the cantor thus operating pastor  churches. Goes by expensive machine. Money earns naturally not in , but evil tongues understand about what speak

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Weddings are not claimed. Christenings are. About burial services too very little to whom it is necessary. Crosses gravestone wooden in "church" on sale are Well here it is not necessary about burial services. Old people often believing and even if you do not trust, all the same you will order it burial service because they so wanted.

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PCH> I know one person at it similar history, only more pathos. It works as the top-manager in one of the cantor thus operating pastor  churches. Goes by expensive machine. Money earns naturally not in , but evil tongues understand about what speak Protestant church is much more ascetic, than orthodox. The bad example. Yes  there the Protestant. Compare orthodox priests in the Russian Federation and in Greece or Armenia.

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Hello, marcopolo, M> your hypotheses, on what they live... - I to you too can tell frankly: I am a pastor. These   - a donation to It. Well.... Remains a little bit.... (

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> the Protestant church is much more ascetic, than orthodox. The bad example. Yes  there the Protestant. Compare orthodox priests in the Russian Federation and in Greece or Armenia. In Armenia priests not the orthodox. And how you compare them, on working clothes?

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> your hypotheses, on what they live... The Allah God gives.

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On what there live priests? On the money received as a result of activity of a temple - sale of candles and icons, on reading of notes about health and rest, execution  - , christenings, weddings, burial services, requiems, consecrations of houses, apartments, cars, offices. On donations of parishioners to temples. It in Russia. And in Greece where the Church is not separated from the state, priests get wages from the state.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> compare orthodox priests in the Russian Federation and in Greece or Armenia. And in what of difference of priests in Russia from priests in Greece or Armenia? Unless that priests live in Russia for the temple account,  and donations, and in Greece priests get wages from the state as in Greece the Church is not separated from the state. P.S. Armenians not orthodox, and .

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Weddings are not claimed. Christenings are. About burial services too very little to whom it is necessary. Crosses gravestone wooden in "church" on sale are Both weddings, and burial services are claimed. M> in general of known sources of incomes -  two cows, sell milk and derivatives. And the mother - the tutor in an English way. Here so - both cows is able to milk and to English learns, a rare combination at present. For me - anything surprising.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: M>> your hypotheses, on what they live... K> the acquaintance got acquainted with the priest. Went to it in a manor to thump even repeatedly. Tells the house smart. In each room on plasma. Well and furniture the corresponding. K> got to talking with it on this subject. Speaks, well and  machine to consecrate still everyone  address. Happens that simply half-hour on action  without any rituals, and  20 drips Priests in Russia live differently. Very much differently.

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> On the money received as a result of activity of a temple - sale of candles and icons you Scorch Church. Officially in churches sell nothing, all is free, but with a mandatory donation. That taxes not to pay.

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Hello, anonymous, you wrote: A> you Scorch Church. Officially in churches sell nothing, all is free, but with a mandatory donation. That taxes not to pay. Not. Officially incomes of fulfillment of religious practices and ceremonies and of implementation of the religious literature and subjects of religious assignment are released from the VAT and do not enter into basis of the profit tax. And if someone from priests does not want to name it sale or rendering of paid services, it from affectedness.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Here I in native settlement have as though a church (at the time of the USSR in that building there was a restaurant). Once a week it makes service. It is clear that His wife is not enough for residing and four children sales of icons and candles M>. M> your hypotheses, on what they live... Businessmen give bribes to god. The priest - the intermediary.

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Hello, anonymous, you wrote: A> Is not present, if you sell something, at you the cash register should be. Should not. With the list of exceptions it. The list of types of activity at which realization of the organization and individual businessmen have the right not to apply the kontrolno-cash technics.......... Implementation of subjects of a religious cult and the religious literature, rendering of services in carrying out of religious practices and ceremonies in cult buildings and constructions and in territories concerning them, in other places given to the religious organizations for these purposes, in establishments and at the enterprises of the religious organizations registered in the order, installed by the legislation of the Russian Federation;

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RF> And in what of difference of priests in Russia from priests in Greece or Armenia? RF> unless that priests live in Russia for the temple account,  and donations, and in Greece priests get wages from the state as in Greece the Church is not separated from the state. Differences in an ascetic way of life. RF> P.S. Armenians not orthodox, and . Well. With Georgia probably confused