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(This continuation the previous subject )
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Boris Usievich :
Raytracer77
Many gush forth, and buy... Well as always

As showed last  - with release  2 all brotherhood  is engaged in customary business - start to wait and extol  3 (4,5 etc.)

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Well excuse, I already forgot that AMD dragged out after paper release of December 2011, at most 7970 was in 2012, fire wood was rather curve
And   started to sell 9900 in August?

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All with an initiative!:D

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[color = "blue"] item 4.3.6.7 item [/color] confuses department CPU and drawing department. "For 10 years" at  there was at least 3 microarchitecture, short of .
K10 And  on it (2007), 15 and bulldozers (2011)/pajldrajvery (2012), 17 and Rajzeny and Epiki (2017).
So [color = "blue"] items 4.15, item 4.3.8.2 item. [/color] talked nonsense that would be desirable it, instead of that actually.
What there at Intel?   with  speculative execution for performance gain?:rotate:

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Raytracer77
Start to wait and extol  3
You understand nothing, here process is more important than result wink

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KKV
In which already time I ask an example though one successful attack wink On all last questions except cries "" the reality and was not.....
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Problem
Your question is a little silly, and by an arguing thread so answer it I can not, try to set it differently.

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If they were, nobody about them will advertize. What for to dig to itself a tomb?
Here even about bug publicity in HT, which  a microcode, was necessary so   and what to speak when bugs equipment rooms and  only microarchitecture processing?
So is better speak nothing, that Intel shame did not seem such big:rotate:

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KKV
"A shame " - only in crazy imaginations of forum fans,
And in the world outside - under financial reports there all is good wink

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There all is good even concerning Nvidii. So it at all argument and yours  the eye is to a volume acknowledgement:rotate:

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KKV :
If they were, nobody about them will advertize. What for to dig to itself a tomb?

In transfer with fan it sounds - "very much we want , but there is nothing"
Continue observation wink
And on resources on  regularly attacks with application 0-day  are described, about  there already half a year silence.

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Matriks
Where that faster, where that more slowly 1080ti
Seriously?:D V64 in games sometimes catches up simple 1080. Thus more expensively and .
Moreover, even bunglers position it as the competitor 1080, but in any way .

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KKV
[color = "blue"] Learn to quote correctly . Either itself you will correct, or a post in a dustbin. [/color]
You between the report of researchers, and an example of successful real attack understand a difference? It seems to me that is not present.

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More it is pleasant to me, as the same people 1) say that at AMD it is very difficult to play back spectra 2) something there tell about theoretical and useless netspectre.
Impartiality from all slots:rotate:

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napych
That at AMD it is very difficult to play back spectra
Some variations it is difficult, some variations simply are not present, and on Intel all is played back very easily and is always.
Difference feel?
Raytracer77
Learn to quote correctly 
Boris teach. It here  deformed recently mine, but corrections did not follow :-\

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KKV
Violations of others are not the justification of yours wink And the argumentation "mum it the first began" is worthy a kindergarten.

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KKV
Some variations it is difficult
What,  the kernel  is difficult? Oh these  ...
And on Intel all is played back very easily and is always
Play back.
I will tactfully pretend that did not note that about netspectre which you here swagger, you held back smile

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napych
Play back.

I do not have processor Intel since 2017. I keep informed wink
Raytracer77
Violations of others are not the justification of yours
No, but for bias follows  with screens. That's all wink

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A series new, and  both let out processors with holes, and lets out.:laugh: stability!

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Is stable-full of holes  - the new slogan.:beer:

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Raytracer77 :
"A shame " - only in crazy imaginations of forum fans,
And in the world outside - under financial reports there all is good wink

It those reports which show how much the company had the clients?
Yes, there all is not bad.
But how it influences their iron?

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KKV
I do not have processor Intel since 2017. I keep informed
. So physical access to the PC to crack is necessary?:rotate:
As it is not interesting.
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And who waits for Zen5? That to waste time on trifles.

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It is necessary to be updated at least on +2 kernels and it is desirable, that them IPC was above, and to be updated for the sake of update it is very uninteresting.

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The main thing - to continue to consider IPC on duration PAUSE:D
,  wrote.

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Matriks
Vega 64 quite to itself a competitive product. Where that faster, where that more slowly 1080ti.
If to be pedantic, in old games of Vega 64 = GTX 1080 (+/-)
In new games steals up to 1080Ti.
(And yes, cards from the Leader lose 20-25 % of productivity in a HDR-mode:laugh:)
I.e. the potential is as though obvious.:cool:

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napych
Durable Pause only at Skajlejk.