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Good afternoon.
At present in firm it is used analog  automatic telephone exchange. At office it is scattered about 20 numbers on different offices. Cables come directly into automatic telephone exchange and there are pressed out.
We want to pass to digit, already picked up automatic telephone exchange - Eltex SMG-200 with 16 ports, which can be used under FXS (or FXO) at once not to buy new phones.
With a telephony I affairs had no earlier, but while I see so:
To get cables in telephone boxing, like the such:
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/wallbox/ … l#pid=2235
And to press out in plinths, and from plinths already  (one end in a plinth, on the second end the connector) in   attached to a wall by means of such bracket:
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/wallbox/ … 14645.html
Still a variant to get cables in a patch-panel and therefrom  (on one end rj45, on other 4 steams pressed out in rj12).
Who can prompts what obvious jambs is in these variants?

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Sibur
Who Can prompts what obvious jambs is in these variants?
Idea.
Automatic telephone exchange - asterisk or its clones/expansions. Free of charge. The Price - only a piece of iron where it will work.
Any analog gateways. They cost money. Wires more to lay out. At once SIP phones.
Well and to refuse analog connections to a city. If "city" it is able. Well or to persuade a manual to replace  if is not present.

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AYM
Any analog gateways. They cost money......
. At once SIP phones.

They are free!

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Dymk
They are cheaper than
Sibur
At once not to buy new phones.
I.e. than at first to throw out money for gateways (and almost as on phones) and then also on phones. And to catch problems with analog.
Well and it is possible and it is free, if sip-BACKGROUND on Pk or . Truth I will already advise not to do it.

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AYM :
Sibur
Who Can prompts what obvious jambs is in these variants?
Idea.
Automatic telephone exchange - asterisk or its clones/expansions. Free of charge. The Price - only a piece of iron where it will work.
Any analog gateways. They cost money. Wires more to lay out. At once SIP phones.
Well and to refuse analog connections to a city. If "city" it is able. Well or to persuade a manual to replace  if is not present.

1. SMG-200 inexpensive  already with a piece of iron.
2. Gateways are built in in  and cost  with them increases not strongly (cost 4-5 SIP phones). Anybody will not lay out new wires, it becomes that there was the partial support old.
3. The failure from analog connection to a city is one of the solving facts. Saving turns out big.
Me physical design of it interests.

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Sibur
The boxing yes, only in it is not present plinths. The size depending on capacity.
It is possible and in RJ-45 to make.

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AYM :
Sibur
The boxing yes, only in it is not present plinths. The size depending on capacity.
It is possible and in RJ-45 to make.

Well plinths as I understood separately are on sale. Simply it would not be desirable that all cables in opened were.

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Sibur
Yes, separately. And the tool is necessary for .

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Sibur
To Get cables in telephone boxing, like such
And to press out in plinths
In no event. An anachronism it.
Only
A variant to get cables in a patch-panel and therefrom 
- YES! But
  (on one end rj45, on other of 4 steams pressed out in rj12)
- NO! One slot - one cable (telephone pair). Not to suffer with these of snakes-gorynychami.

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Sibur
Picked up automatic telephone exchange - Eltex SMG-200 with 16 ports, which can be used under FXS (or FXO) at once not to buy new phones.
If to refuse this bad idea, and automatic telephone exchange ( RasPBX - it is free) to deliver on Raspberry PI ($40 with the case, the size about a pack of cigarets), the spared money just suffices to buy "iron" SIP-phones.:D
And, as already told, any plinths. And phones - in a switch, better, it is finite with PoE.
Adding from 8/13/2018 19:46:
I will a little explain: In case Ezernet is brought to workplaces already to complete/alter anything and it is not required. Simply lace from a switch  not in the computer, and in phone. Well, and in majority  of phones there are 2 connectors Ethernet.

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Sibur
Concerning selected  - there it is desirable to esteem attentively instructions as in possible parts there are submodules on 8 ports fxs and on 8 fxo. It is necessary to clarify how many and what stand by default, and how many it will be necessary .
Besides, it is necessary to specify before purchase at the provider of a telephony as they to you can submit city numbers.
Usage IP automatic telephone exchange is certainly well, but it is necessary clearly represent that to you can to be demanded to alter plant louses to expand an existing network at the enterprise, to buy in addition ip phones, switchboards, or to leave old conducting, analog phones, but  voip gateways.
Besides, though here the majority advises to spare 2 copecks, and to deliver program  (an asterisk in all its forms);
Strongly I do not recommend it to do, especially if it is your first experience such.  on cats, work at home, but only not on live people and not on working system.

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mvn2000
There are 2 connectors Ethernet.
? :-\

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aMster
Though here the majority advises to spare 2 copecks
This HARDWARE plans is momentary to spare copecks, using old analog conducting. If in a forehead to compare automatic telephone exchange cost, saving - on the order and more. On features, to compare  (in which case everyone  - for separate considerable money) and free Asterisk - is even not ridiculous.
And to deliver program  (an asterisk in all its forms),
Ah, the good fellow! As it is thin distorted. Naturally, the beginner most likely does not suspect that any  automatic telephone exchange just the same "iron", as well as box Raspberry PI c the Asterisk inside. And on the contrary, "iron" automatic telephone exchange just the same program.
Potrenerujtes on cats, work at home
With  automatic telephone exchange in cost some tens thousand roubles?:D
And here at my place FreePBX on  costs, works, fulfills a heap of functions, I can train though to ... And it is absolutely free. Here it, the tiny sizes of automatic telephone exchange with almost unlimited possibilities, cost of the $40, capable to service some tens clients (see )
Vovan [He 0]
Gigabitnye?
To whom it is necessary, it is possible also gigabit. There are many models with  ports.

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aMster :
Sibur
Concerning selected  - there it is desirable to esteem attentively instructions as in possible parts there are submodules on 8 ports fxs and on 8 fxo. It is necessary to clarify how many and what stand by default, and how many it will be necessary .
Besides, it is necessary to specify before purchase at the provider of a telephony as they to you can submit city numbers.
Usage IP automatic telephone exchange is certainly well, but it is necessary clearly represent that to you can to be demanded to alter plant louses to expand an existing network at the enterprise, to buy in addition ip phones, switchboards, or to leave old conducting, analog phones, but  voip gateways.
Besides, though here the majority advises to spare 2 copecks, and to deliver program  (an asterisk in all its forms);
Strongly I do not recommend it to do, especially if it is your first experience such.  on cats, work at home, but only not on live people and not on working system.

Thanks for councils.
I  not simply selected, but also on testing took, so all questions worked, including operation with analog submodules.
As we hardly have more than numbers 20 - I was going to use 2 submodules on 8 ports, and remaining to replace IP with phones.

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aMster :
Sibur
Besides, though here the majority advises to spare 2 copecks, and to deliver program  (an asterisk in all its forms);
Strongly I do not recommend it to do, especially if it is your first experience such.  on cats, work at home, but only not on live people and not on working system.

Listen to council.
There is such expression: I am not so rich to buy cheap things.
At least, putting an Asterisk, all risks and responsibility for its operation you take personally on itself. If that  will search on forums and to ask to help etc. Putting the brand decision you receive on 100 % a working functional which is declared in the documentation, a warranty of the vendor, and support from it.
As I told : what for to me to put system, for which the developer does not take money not to carry any responsibility!
Do outputs. And councils of "experts" who few times launched Asterisks, including on routers, etc. leave it on conscience. When all departs to devils, you, instead of those who advised it to you will stand a cancer. And your diligence  will interest nobody.

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MrXAOC
Putting the brand decision you receive on 100 % a working functional which is declared in the documentation, a warranty of the vendor, and support from it.
Yes-yes, there is such station infinity, well paid support and other - in general and lies. Years 7 as. Then also checks of logins were not, only a binding to IP. In sense there was a check but did not work also the supervisor could replace to the administrator the password smile well and more many all entertaining. And did not start up, but the asterisk already is.
When all departs to devils
And when to them the purchased automatic telephone exchange, in which that asterisk goes?

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AYM
And when to them the purchased automatic telephone exchange goes
What the person at office with 20th phones and  will do responsible IT automatic telephone exchange in cost many ten thousand roubles, in case of any malfunction? And anything. To WAIT, when bring changeover. And the automatic telephone exchange will not be at this time. If the necessary spare part carries also will be available, from one working day. And if does not carry, many days and weeks while bring up from . But any responsibility.:gigi:
What the person at office with 20th phones and installed, say, FreePBX on Raspbery PI will do responsible IT? To OPERATE. If carries, takes a new flash card in cost of $5, tears  and launches in operation anew. Or, at worst, gets from a shelf a reserve board, cost of $35, tears  on a new flash card, delivers the new power supply for $5 and starts up all in operation. Occupy these actions anyway from 5 till 20 minutes with a smoke break .:cool:
But, seemingly, the choice made the HARDWARE, therefore to arrange discussion on type "bees against honey" with "representatives " in a subject about telephonization of small office on 20 workplaces, I think, there is no sense. smile

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mvn2000
In the second case the person responsible IT it will be finite the good fellow, but the problem that it does not see a manual and does not estimate, and will consider that the IP-telephony works in itself

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revil
When I served in army in communication armies, my commander liked to speak: "Communication such piece when it is, it do not note, when there is no, without it choke".
Nothing hinders in the second case to arrange "day of silence" that noted.:gigi:

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mvn2000
Actually and to an asterisk there are complexities, for example, a board of flows in due time waited 1 month. And if it is required to replace after a thunder-storm? Already I do not know as with availability.

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AYM
I suppose, if problems with a board, the Asterisk here at anything? Trunks reserve nobody hinders to connect and without a board. However, speech goes only about 20 phones, it seems to me, boards in this case are irrelevant. smile

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mvn2000

"Communication [del] such piece [/del] - as air when it is, it do not note, when there is no, without it choke".

Corrected more close to the original.

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mvn2000
That the Asterisk here at anything?
Asterisk . And here to the administrator all the same gets on the fallen automatic telephone exchange. That iron that an asterisk.
Trunks reserve nobody hinders to connect and without a board.
The provider can hinder. Or the director without signing an abacus. The Provider not free of charge makes it.
Speech goes only about 20 phones, it seems to me, boards in this case are irrelevant
At me the branch about such volume saw on 1, is more exact on not full, but 1. It was historically added, it is already altered.
There was a numeral iron station (not IP), then the asterisk "got" into flow rupture. There was a quite good saving on MG . Well and then, at moving and it replaced on pure sip.

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As though read a forum of 10-year-old prescription.
At 3 times looked at dates - is not present, 2018.
These automatic telephone exchanges and IP  still are necessary to someone?:eek:

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glob2011
And how to office without phones? It is necessary to service clients.