Decided to take something for the winter that it was possible to go for a drive on skis (worried last winter the shame when mine from parking at wood five together pushed out ). New I want nothing, to machines and on credit I will not get. Is about one million, was today in Mejdzhore, Subaru Outback and Forester 11-12 years, all in my budget (or hardly for it) is on sale there. What to take from this? Variators at them as, reliable? Or to take better than 3rd generation with the normal automatic machine (it also is cheaper)? And generally, if not (they it is banal simply on eyes got), that it is possible to take?