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Jktu
Tell, and you have what relation to Petriku? You its PR agent?
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nenin
That is characteristic, Grabovoj a member of that Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, as Petrik :-\

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Boris Usievich :
Jktu
Tell, and you have what relation to Petriku? You its PR agent? - \

Transfer of a subject into a personnel of participants a favorite method of all trolls.:beer:
Further charge me in participation in investigation of one Near-Eastern country follows, then me name ...
Arguments in a subject are?
If there is no that I will help, the directing help, what relation to Chernobyl, a city and  has personally round timbers and the famous scientists of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Any? Modestly looked down eyes, pens hid under an apron, silently smile.:beer:

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Boris Usievich :
That is characteristic, Grabovoj a member of that Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, as Petrik

Not, Grabovogo even therefrom eliminated.

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Jktu :
If there is no that I will help, the directing help, what relation to Chernobyl, a city and  has personally round timbers and the famous scientists of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Any?

Well tell, what. It is interesting to me to listen.:shuffle:
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Jktu :
Arguments in a subject are?

Is. Show that proof that  can make that promises. Not bla-bla-bla, and the specific description of objects and processes on which base it distributes the promises. Where, whom and when they have been approved. On the basis of what outputs what   itself does these filters generally have been drawn? Perhaps it are smoothfaced fulfilled on dustbins collects and cleans in a cellar. Or at  gas masks delayed bought. On its color that. wink

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Jktu
By the way, announce the list of articles  on which he sat smile
[off] judging by response to the previous question, I guessed [/off]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZPB118kXiw&NR=1
It is necessary  to open lies school, and that such experience disappears-))
Masterpiece
Jktu
What you from a subject in a subject rush with the ?-))

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Boris Usievich
Bosh.
Flood.
Not bosh.:D
nenin
Well, compare, time thrust. And for this purpose with deep arguments, without idle talk and demagogy, prove that Queens in  made more than if he sat in NASA. Or Tupolev, , on the Boeing.
You did not understand that I wanted to tell. - 1800 persons worked in  (recently transmission after a body was, edge of an eye of couples heard) - made more () than nowadays institutes with cheapskates, which 1 800 000 already probably...
Speech about it. About ancient scientists it is possible not to stammer at all.

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LoeG :
nenin
Well, compare, time thrust. And for this purpose with deep arguments, without idle talk and demagogy, prove that Queens in  made more than if he sat in NASA. Or Tupolev, , on the Boeing.
You did not understand that I wanted to tell.

[off] I perfectly understood all. It is customary to you demagogical flood, to a subject and a reality of the relation not having. Overheard a ring and that did not deliver - that already ... [/off]

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vsMsf
And in what a problem? Basic researches are quite often used as cover for development of technologies which then used by private corporations. Money thus goes from the state budget. Only it is not bad in general, after all the contribution to scientific and technical progress is all the same imported.
In that you only confirmed my words with it. - Branch.
nenin
I perfectly understood all.
Here and remarkably, it is glad for you.
Only you answered me not in cash register.

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LoeG :
nenin
I perfectly understood all.
Here and remarkably, it is glad for you.
Only you answered me not in cash register.

to you just it in cash register, aha. However, you can try to compare  darlings to your heart  and on the contrary.:rotate: It you too could refute me. But, I so think, all repeats the same history... wink

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nenin
You can try to compare  darlings to your heart  and on the contrary.
You lie - I did not tell darlings.
What on the contrary?

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LoeG :
nenin
You can try to compare  darlings to your heart  and on the contrary.
You lie - I did not tell darlings.

and I said, what you told it ?:eek:  who lies?

What on the contrary?

not dumbfounded .

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nenin
And I said, what you told it?  who lies?
What you stuffy that such? Another would apologize.
- changes, what it will be - slander? You told-sharashki darlings to my heart.
Not dumbfounded .
How many they were at us? At that time? - Cite the data.

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LoeG :
nenin
And I said, what you told it?  who lies?
What you stuffy that such? Another would apologize.

for what it, ? You just  accused me of lie, and I  apologize should?:spy:

You told-sharashki darlings to my heart.

and what, is not present? Strange... Or not you wrote it: " Stalin - here it there was a super efficiency"? Forgot already?

Not dumbfounded .
How many they were at us? At that time? - Cite the data.

what for? You bent the next bosh - here and confirm it though somehow.:rotate:

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The copyist! To it all the divine dew...
In a frame. You super Nenin:up:
...The science degrades it is noticeable. sad
Knowledge does not replace culture and conscience

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LoeG
In that you only confirmed my words with it.
Certainly. I only estimate such practice slightly positively.
Prohor
The Main thing after all that progress moves forward...
Well the choice is not great. Or the passive state will spend money exceptional for social needs, and the science will be in a triggered state, or mean businessmen dissolve the state (through a lobby, bribes and.) on is real-scientific expenditures (after all really operating technologies are necessary to them), and thus though slowly (and besides through...) but all the same will move progress forward.
Unfortunately people which come to the power in a science absolute zero. In an any way somebody dissolves them, or  or more creative and progressive businessmen.

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LoeG :
The copyist! To it all the divine dew...
In a frame. You super Nenin:up:

[off] LoeG , I am perfect  to demagogy. Especially to yours - as checked liar ( to throw into the account of the Divine dew? wink). You once again and could not be responsible for the words - that for you however, is quite typical: at first you  kakaju-nibud-nibud provocative nonsense, and then plant round it a demagogical flame. [/off]

...The science degrades it is noticeable. sad

to Whom it is noticeable? To you? See more low.

Knowledge does not replace culture and conscience

And them is especially.:rotate:
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Jktu :
Decided to transfer this message. There is a sensible grain.
"mserg Re: discrediting of a science and who behind it can stand
  18, 2010 1:49:26 AM
Appeared: 17/10/08
Messages: 118
If we want to change something, it is necessary for us:
* To find the leader-organizer. Influential, clever, wishing to equip the country, mercantile moderately.
* Jointly to simulate the future, i.e. to describe mechanisms as the science will be on friendly terms with real life.
* After the model of effective scientific activity will be created - to achieve its implementation.
For the sake of curiosity I can tell, how the western science, so to say, about its invisible side is arranged. It is finite, my guesses, but I attended to this problem about 10 years ago.
<***> hi-tech products of these corporations (they, actually, also ordered it).
At us all a cancer. Scientists, without knowing "life", to itself invent tasks. <****> to withstand a competition to the West to us it is necessary to become even cleverer and even more effective, than they. "

a severe dial-up . The person extremely self-denying: with one , at all in a subject, with another - is not afraid to fix the  in writing.:gigi: that I would be clear - in the same western science + / - 10 years, and before in native was that not 15. wink

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Glanced in this subject purely casually thanking LoeG
I want to tell here that is all looks like attack to the Russian Academy of Sciences and similar not simply attack
I will result only  from the biography of Petrika. The solution of such popularity is on date since "In 1990th years....":D Knowing people understand

Help: Petrik Victor Ivanovich - was born in 1946 in one of villages of Zhitomir area (under other data, in Zhitomir).
By own words, in 1975 finished faculty of psychology of the Leningrad university, tried to receive also the diploma on , but unsuccessfully.
Even before study at university Petrik led mass sessions of hypnosis.
Worked as the research assistant of scientific research institute of V.M.Bekhterev.
In December, 1984 V.I.Petrik has been condemned for 11 years of imprisonment with property confiscation under 13 articles of the Criminal code: swindle, attempt at a robbery, extortion, compulsion to a summer residence of false testimonies, etc. In January, 1989 has been released conditionally ahead of schedule then worked as the artist in design workshops of Leningrad.
From the beginning of 1990th years was the general director and the unique founder of Open Company "Incorporation 4" which was engaged in cultivation of artificial garnets, amethyst and other minerals for the jeweler industry on the technology developed in State optical the institute. It was informed also that she also was engaged in selection of an isotope osmium-187 from rhenium minerals () together with research-and-production join "Radium institute of a name of V.G.Hlopina".
In 1997 Petrik became the academician of the Russian academy of natural sciences (Russian Academy of Natural Sciences) (however by the academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences E. B.Aleksandrovym also it was informed that the reference manual on the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences of 2000 about it is silent).
On May, 22nd, 2001 the decision of the Higher interacademic certifying commission of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences to it awards a scientific degree of a Dr.Sci.Tech. (on October, 17th, 2001 the Higher attestative made of the commission of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation the decision on incompetence of attestative activity of the Higher interacademic certifying commission). To the correspondent GZT.RU in the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences informed that Petrik does not pay membership dues, and its institute  did not transit a re-registration.
Afterwards it became the president and the supervisor of studies of scientific research institute of physics  and the new materials, founded in Moscow the Russian academy of natural sciences, Fund of presidential programs and V.I.Petrikom.
In 1990th years V.I.Petrik was the adviser for economic problems of the St.-Petersburg mayoralty.
In the beginning 2000 - the general director of Joint-Stock Company "" of fund of presidential programs, the director of department of strategic researches of Academy of national safety of Russia.
Simultaneously it is the owner and the supervisor of studies of Open Company "Holding the Gold formula".
The academician of some public academies: Petrovsky academy of Sciences and arts, the St.-Petersburg academy of history of a science and technics, the International slavic academy of Sciences, formation, arts and culture, the International academy of Sciences of ecology, safety of the person and the nature, in the past (before its liquidation) the academician of Academy of problems of safety, defense and the law and order.
It is informed that it ostensibly opened the formula of safe game in a casino, made discoveries in the field of manufacture of hyperfine screens, invented  for cars, a method of starting of the vehicles, not demanding presence of energy sources, created eternally rotating cylinder which is not consuming energy.
Created underground "a pyramid of Heopsa", radiating rays which ostensibly prolong human life till 140 years.
(On materials of the free encyclopedia Wikipedia

[q=LoeG]... The science degrades it is noticeable.

And it is sad "Slaves not we" or "Slaves are mute" sad